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To: Fishtalk

Glad you brouth up ventilators,its a really huge topic since 80% of those in NYC that were put on ventilators died!!
there is a reason:
Here’s a post I made here yesterday:

To: Golden Eagle
Here’s the other problem with ventilators,they don’t work. Isstead they are killing patients,especially in NYC>

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-8201783/Some-doctors-moving-away-ventilators-virus-patients.html

At least 80 percent of coronavirus patients in New York City who have been put on a ventilator have died.

As health officials around the world push to get more ventilators to treat patients, some doctors are moving away from using the breathing machines when they can.

The reason: Some hospitals have reported unusually high death rates for coronavirus patients on ventilators, and some doctors worry that the machines could be harming certain patients.

Mechanical ventilators push oxygen into patients whose lungs are failing. Using the machines involves sedating a patient and sticking a tube into the throat.

Deaths in such sick patients are common, no matter the reason they need the breathing help.

Generally speaking, 40 percent to 50 percent of patients with severe respiratory distress die while on ventilators, experts say.

Higher-than-normal death rates - like those in New York City - also have been reported elsewhere in the US, said Dr Albert Rizzo, the American Lung Association’s chief medical officer.

11 posted on 4/18/2020, 5:15:22 AM by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic home of the free because of the Brave)
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157 posted on 04/19/2020 7:39:16 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic home of the free because of the Brave)
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To: rodguy911

“some doctors ...moving away from the ventilators...”

Yes - they have figured out that the oxygen level saturation in the blood plasma is affected somehow by the virus.


176 posted on 04/19/2020 8:07:05 AM PDT by stonehouse01
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To: rodguy911

Two articles worth reading. More and more debate amongst ER-ICU docs saying use of ventilators is wrong approach to treatment. This first one is about the European experience.

1) https://www.france24.com/en/20200415-doctors-think-ventilators-might-harm-some-covid-19-patients

Second article: Statement from this second article worth noting:

“Data from China suggested that early intubation would keep Covid-19 patients’ heart, liver, and kidneys from failing due to hypoxia,” said a veteran emergency medicine physician. “This has been the whole thing driving decisions about breathing support: Knock them out and put them on a ventilator.”

2) https://www.statnews.com/2020/04/08/doctors-say-ventilators-overused-for-covid-19/


229 posted on 04/19/2020 9:26:11 AM PDT by pugmama (Come fly with me.)
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