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Stanford study suggests coronavirus is more widespread than realized
spectator.us ^ | 4/17/20 | Ross Clark

Posted on 04/17/2020 11:02:46 AM PDT by a little elbow grease

If SARS-Cov-2 is already endemic in the population, there is nothing we can do to stop it — but no great reason to try to stop it, either

Another day, and yet more evidence has appeared that could indicate the number of people who have been infected with SARS-CoV-2, the virus which causes COVID-19, might be vastly higher than official figures suggest. This time a Californian study suggests the figure in one county could be more than 50 times the number who knew they had had the virus.

A team from Stanford University and other colleges recruited volunteers in Santa Clara County via Facebook adverts and produced a sample of 3,000 representatives of the county as a whole. They were then invited for blood tests to detect the presence of antibodies to the virus. The result was positive in 1.5 percent of cases. Adjusting for age, gender and ethnicity the results suggest that 2.8 percent of people in the county had already had the virus. That might not seem many, but at the time of the study — on April 4 and 5 — only 1,094 people in the county were recorded as having the virus. The study suggests the real figure is between 48,000 and 81,000.

Like many studies which have been pre-published in order to aid understanding of the COVID-19 pandemic, the paper produced by the Stanford-led team has not yet been peer-reviewed. Moreover, it took place in a part of the United States where very few people have so far tested positive with the virus. It would be interesting to see the experiment repeated in New York City, where recorded infections are far higher.

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To: Bob434

yep


21 posted on 04/17/2020 11:15:36 AM PDT by a little elbow grease (... to err is human, to admit it unusual...)
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To: a little elbow grease

Fauxcy should go get on Biden’s transition team.


22 posted on 04/17/2020 11:15:45 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: a little elbow grease

Well on our way to herd immunity...open the country up.


23 posted on 04/17/2020 11:16:39 AM PDT by Drango (1776 = 2020)
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To: RomanSoldier19
ok so solitary confinement is the only option

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Yes, or hanging by the fingernails.

24 posted on 04/17/2020 11:16:46 AM PDT by a little elbow grease (... to err is human, to admit it unusual...)
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To: exDemMom

“We’re pulling guesses out our ass but it’s all good because we be sciencians!”


25 posted on 04/17/2020 11:17:35 AM PDT by Grimmy (equivocation is but the first step along the road to capitulation)
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To: kiryandil

UV from the sun. It ends the flu season as the sun is more direct, and the atmosphere doesn’t block the UV as effectively. UV is very effective at killing viruses. The flu season starts when solar radiation is not as strong in the fall. Going outside in the sunlight kills the virus on our skin and clothing. Not as much transmission.


26 posted on 04/17/2020 11:17:40 AM PDT by TStro (Better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Correct!!!! No MEDIA coverage of the disparity.


27 posted on 04/17/2020 11:18:04 AM PDT by Paul46360 (What??ME worry?)
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To: Sarah Barracuda

May have been here since Novemberish, some are saying.

With all the Chinese cargo ships in ports and Chinese enclaves in CA...


28 posted on 04/17/2020 11:18:31 AM PDT by polymuser (It's discouraging to think how many people are shocked by honesty and so few by deceit. Noel Coward)
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To: a little elbow grease

The significance of this study cannot be overstated.

Zero basis for lockdown.


29 posted on 04/17/2020 11:19:47 AM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: cherry
do people really think Cuomo wants to prevent deaths?...he does not....in fact, I'm sure he's thinking that the more little old grannies that die in a nursing home the more gallant he looks for "trying to stop it"....

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I sort of am getting the same feeling watching that sick little drama queen moaning and lamenting every day.

Cuomo is a mouthy ass and an embarrassment to Italians..

30 posted on 04/17/2020 11:20:19 AM PDT by a little elbow grease (... to err is human, to admit it unusual...)
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To: Sarah Barracuda

RIGHT


31 posted on 04/17/2020 11:20:50 AM PDT by a little elbow grease (... to err is human, to admit it unusual...)
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Oooh, now hearing it was in Wuhan in September (this has a thread):

https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/coronavirus-began-months-earlier-not-21882132


32 posted on 04/17/2020 11:21:24 AM PDT by polymuser (It's discouraging to think how many people are shocked by honesty and so few by deceit. Noel Coward)
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To: all the best
This came along just after the impeachment campaign collapsed. A perfect opportunity to destroy the economy and Trump’s claim to reelection. Americans readily went along as vast majority want safety, comfort, security over messy ol’ freedom.

Whatever the reality, no doubt media overhyped. I would guess ratings have gone through the roof. Folks at home and now hooked on fear porn.____________

You draw a very possible picture.

33 posted on 04/17/2020 11:23:00 AM PDT by a little elbow grease (... to err is human, to admit it unusual...)
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To: a little elbow grease

[[do people really think Cuomo wants to prevent deaths?...he does not....]]

He’s done everything in his power to ensure more deaths- by denying people the right to get a very safe and effective drug without being hospitalized and on a ventilator when it’s too late to fix the issue- He has either done this on purpose, or he simply has no clue and shouldn’t be governor if that is the case- either way he should not be gov- 1000’s have died needlessly in his state- all because President Trump touted HCQ, and cuomo can’t stand to use something that Trump touted- only reluctantly did he allow the very sickest to get it when it’s too late-


34 posted on 04/17/2020 11:24:23 AM PDT by Bob434
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To: a little elbow grease

I am positive the wife and I had COVID in late Dec to Jan. We live in MD. Both of us had the exact symptoms and I wound up with bronchitis and she with pneumonia. We were sick for a month. Antibiotics did nothing, and it was not until the third visit to urgent care my wife got antiviral medicine that started to improve.


35 posted on 04/17/2020 11:25:36 AM PDT by Fzob
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To: a little elbow grease

My possible brush with the Corona crud this past winter. I live about 60 air miles from where this study was done:

81 year old male in fairly good health. Immunizations and other problems:

INFs Pres Free High Dose (FLUZONE) (influenza)
Administered 9/26/2019

ZOS (Herpes zoster recombinant) Shingrix
Administered 10/4/2019, and then I had a mild fever my arm ached like a mule kicked it for About 4 days.

After the above, I felt great and had increased my mile walk to twice a day.

NOV/27/2019:
Two days before Thanksgiving, after I woke up and got out of bed, I had blood in my urine and a swollen rt. testicle and 100 degree temp. I felt like that mule kicked me over my right kidney. I had felt good the day before and did about an hour of PT with a physical therapist and my walks.
The next day I had the fever, blood in my urine and the ache described above.

When that happens to an 81 year old male, the Clinics immediately bring you in.

I saw a doctor very quickly at our local big clinic that afternoon.

She prescribed a week’s therapy of Levaquin*, an oral fluoroquinolone, which I got at the pharmacy, shortly after seeing the doctor. I took my first dose in our car while my wife drove us home. They also, got a urine sample from me, before I left the building. There was no infection just red blood in my urine. That went away after about 24 hours on the meds.

Then, the various tests for a kidney problem showed nothing.

From that onset to about the middle of March, I had all the symptoms reported by other freepers:

Low energy, lack of taste, headache, chills and lower GI problems. Very cold feet and hands, which I never have.

During our family Christmas dinner and
Exchange of presents, I probably passed my crud on to one of our adult sons, who had The crud until about 3 weeks ago. He missed more work in a couple of months with the crud.

Our grandson apparently got the crud and didn’t feel good for a few days.

Both of these guys are basically never sick.

None of our women folk got the crud. Ages 20-80

As noted in previous posts, several male friends, who had zero contact with me in Nov/Dec/Jan..

Had similar symptons. One friend labeled it the AT&T/Comcast flu as we had zero physical interactions before the crud besides phone calls and texting.

This Stanford study may explain what was happening to us.

*Levaquin, (levofloxacin) is in a class of antibiotics called fluoroquinolones. Other antibiotics in this class of drugs include ciprofloxacin (Cipro), norfloxacin, (Noroxin), ofloxacin (Floxin), trovafloxacin (Trovan), lomefloxacin (Maxaquin), gatifloxacin (Tequin), and moxifloxacin (Avelox).


36 posted on 04/17/2020 11:26:55 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Are the ChiComs, their blatant ownership of America, fake news media/CNN, the real Deep Staters?)
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To: exDemMom

“So, a lot of people tested for antibodies with a non-validated test came up positive. It looks to me like they’re detecting people who have had ordinary coronavirus infections—in other words, it’s detecting people who had colds.”

So you know more about the scientists’ study (see link below) than they do, and they’re wrong and you’re right. Sure.

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.14.20062463v1.full.pdf


37 posted on 04/17/2020 11:27:01 AM PDT by norcal joe
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To: mylife

Not everything.


38 posted on 04/17/2020 11:27:14 AM PDT by funfan
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To: exDemMom

Read the article

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.14.20062463v1.full.pdf


39 posted on 04/17/2020 11:29:27 AM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: cherry

A lot of the coverage requires you to believe that this virus behaves in a completely different way than any other virus that’s ever existed.

There’s simply no rational basis to believe that. Even if it’s a worst-case scenario and engineered it’s still a virus. It can’t behave like a completely different animal.


40 posted on 04/17/2020 11:30:02 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer)
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