Posted on 04/12/2020 7:06:08 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
Hydroxychloroquine Not To Be Used As COVID-19 Cure: Top Medical Body India has so far 7,529 positive cases of COVID-19. (Representational)
New Delhi: The Indian Council of Medical Research (ICMR) on Saturday said that hydroxychloroquine or HCQ should be used as prophylaxis to prevent the coronavirus and not as a treatment for COVID-19. "Two trials were conducted aborad. The trails were not good enough. So, we thought if it needs to used in our country, it should be used as prophylaxis, and not as a treatment," Raman R Ganagakhedkar, Head Scientist, ICMR, told ANI.
"We have decided that if it reduces the chances of COVID-19 among doctors and their contacts, then we will advise it to others. The results of the effect of HCQ in them is yet to come," he added.
He, however, cautioned that HCQ has side effects as well.
"We have never recommended it to the general public. Doctors are advised to prescribe to patients judiciously. People need not be worried nor they need to start using HCQ. Like other medicines, this has side effects too. If we get the desired or futile results, we will inform the public," said Mr Ganagakhedkar.
He further said that it is very hard to say whether or not COVID-19 patient, who has recovered is likely to be COVID-19 positive again or not.
"It is very hard to say something about this. We have initiated a study for this. It will take time. We will tell everything based on evidence," he added.
The Union Ministry of Health and Family Welfare on Thursday had said that the government has more than enough stock of HCQ for meeting the current requirement.
India has temporarily licensed the export of paracetamol and anti-malarial drug hydroxychloroquine (HCQ) in appropriate quantities to some countries, which have been badly affected by the coronavirus pandemic.
India has so far 7,529 positive cases of COVID-19 and 242 deaths caused by the virus.
“Worldwide or in India, from the very beginning, it appears that if you have the disease and it is serious enough to be recorded and monitored you have about one chance in five of dying.”
but would be the chances of mortality if one was given HCQ/antibiotic/Zinc at the first sign of C-19 infection?
“so if you use it as a prophylaxis does this mean you have to take it continuously?”
yes, but it has an extremely long half life (like 27) days and the effect last 40 days after being dosed, so might not have to take much very often after a loading dose ...
HCQ as a TEMPORARY prophylaxis until the pandemic is declared officially over.
In the context of malaria parasites (plasmodium falciparum) malaria drugs are notorious for building up tolerance over time as mutations of the parasites become drug resistant.
A great concern of mine and others is this virus is a low-intensity widespread attack to be followed by a lethal trigger after most of the population becomes infected even as most are asymptomatic. To buy into this we need to accept this pandemic was a bioweapon attack. Most are not there yet. But the truth is dripping out:
Coronavirus lab escape theory advances
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/apr/8/coronavirus-lab-escape-theory-advances
"The Post’s David Ignatius, however, surprised many last week with a column pointing out questions about claims that the outbreak originated at the wild animal market in Wuhan. No bats were sold at the market."
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Among those that are waking up to a bioweapon release scenario, there are still those positing that even as evidence emerges this was a 'lab' release, it was likely accidental. This is the diplomatic approach, not wishing to inject inflammatory rhetoric into the discussion. Fine, but I and many others subscribe to the worst case scenario where this is a deliberate planned release that involves not just the high command in China but also their globalist partners and associates. I know from experience most people in this world are viewed as human cattle by such, especially some I know who fly in private 757s, who are domiciled in Switzerland but who own ranches in Arizona and other properties in tax havens around the world (note: the US is a tax haven for rich foreigners).
George Soros in Davos: 2020 Election Will Determine ‘Fate of the World’ (23 Jan 2020)
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/01/23/george-soros-in-davos-2020-election-will-determine-fate-of-the-world
Soros: Trump Will "Disappear" In 2020, Or Even Sooner (published from the same conference)
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2018/01/27/soros_trump_will_disappear_in_2020_or_ever_sooner.html#!
Followed two weeks later by a prominent US minion of Soros:
Nancy Pelosi: ‘Civilization as We Know It Is at Stake’ in 2020 Election (9 Mar 2020)
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/03/09/nancy-pelosi-civilization-as-we-know-it-is-at-stake-in-2020-election
We see the evolution and promulgation of the globalist alarm and war cry "world at stake if Trump reelected"
Preceded by (but later recycled in Mar 2020 amid pandemic):
Canada Investigates China’s Biological Espionage (8 Aug 2019
https://greatgameindia.com/canada-investigates-chinas-biological-espionage
Folding in with:
Bill Gates Calls For National Tracking System For Coronavirus (18 Mar 2020)
https://www.forbes.com/sites/mattperez/2020/03/18/bill-gates-calls-for-national-tracking-system-for-coronavirus-during-reddit-ama/#12c8d62a6a72
Followed by Gates minion and Gates Foundation board member, patent holder of elements in SARS-COV-2, Anthony Fauci:
CDC Unveils 1st National Coronavirus Pandemic Tracking System (4 Apr 2020
It doesn't take an 'imaginative' 'wayward' mind to see there is a threat here with an agenda that is organized and coordinated. The cautious line is to prepare for further attacks. Note Fauci warned of the virus becoming 'seasonal'.
Clearly, there are those that want this attack to continue along veins that are profitable while increasing control of human populations and ultimately 'culling the human herd'. Note eugenicists believe overpopulation is the root of all ills, for example Climate Change is resolved by reducing the human population by several billion. It is a fact that such people exist in high circles that believe this, they believe in 'Population Reduction'. We would be wise to take it seriously.
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Back to a discussion of prophylaxis, the good news is HCQ + Zinc should load enough Zinc into cells to guard against secondary waves of illness. To keep Zinc at sufficient levels inside cells without inducing HCQ tolerance, we need adequately powered treatment arms to monitor such dietary levels and supplement the diet to increase Zinc in plasma with some form of quinine tonic. Such dietary liquids should be ingested as broadly and frequently as orange juice with breakfast, perhaps as packets of powder added to orange juice. Other dietary prophylaxis modalities should be investigated as an ongoing concern. There is recent substantiated news of Vit A as an effective long term prophylaxis.
When and if secondary attacks occur, pharma grade therapeutics need to be ready to treat those that succumb. Meanwhile, the remainder of the population, hopefully the vast remainder, is kept healthy by a daily habit of long term adherence to dietary prophylaxis in myriad forms.
There are yet other concerns, other vectors for biowarfare are now surfacing. For example, an attack on the heme in hemoglobin causing hypoxia, analogous to a form of high altitude sickness. Some are conflating this as the actual mode of attack and dismissing ARDS as erroneous.
I find no reason to exclude one or the other. Thinking with our military hats on, a biowarfare plan created by enemies would entail several attack vectors. Our job is to think of all plausible scenarios, all plausible delivery modes, and bunker down against them. The job of our intel warriors is to investigate and analyse the enemy sources and prepare a counterattack.
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As predicted weeks back on FR, the notion of suing China for their duplicity, dereliction, deceit is gaining ground, Just look at the support building in Congress and governor's offices calling for making China pay. I suggested weeks back that an offset created by court ruling against China's trillion dollar debt holding of US Treasury paper would be the path toward making China pay. We are not quite there yet but we can see the support for making them pay including filing lawsuits growing in circles of those holding power and influence. This is a whole separate topic.
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For believers, here's wishing for everyone Happy Easter! Our Savior Has Risen Indeed! Note though during this dark time, our ultimate joy should be accompanied by solemn deep prayer for our President with the following prayer points from Jeremiah Johnson:
May we remember that our wrestle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places. (Ephesians 6:12)
The intent is not to demonize Dr. Anthony Fauci, but rather we must recognize an agenda at work that is clearly contrary to the purpose and plans of God.
With Urgency, Fasting, and Prayer,
Jeremiah Johnson
Please repeat the above prayer points at least once per day. It's important.
“This is a game-changer. If you can give the public a daily dose of HCQ with a Z-pack, we can open up the country immediately.”
of maybe just the vulnerable population could be offered it as a prophylactic ... as for rest of the population, an HCQ/antibiotic/zinc cure at the first sign of the disease might be a safer and more effective way to go, since younger, healthier people are less prone to severe cases ...
“Then you hear Docs that say they only use HCQ-Zinc-antibiotic only on their worst covid cases.”
docs on the front lines are saying the earlier the better, that late in the game is too late:
see my post:
freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3834350/posts#20
“For prophelactic use, I believe is is simply once a WEEK.”
that sounds about right ... HCQ has a 27 day half-life and has effect even after 40 days after the first dose ...
“I wish I could remember what I saw about the dosage being cumulative.”
it is initially cumulative because the drug actually enters the cells and has a very long half life, and at a certain point after starting the drug the cells are saturated and you reach a steady-state of old drug being metabolized vs new drug being taken ... basically, the first few doses act as a loading dose ...
That is just based on hospitalizations, which have to be really severe at this point.
And that doesn’t tell us anything about chloroquine at this point. Yes, the sooner it is used (up to as a prophylactic) the better.
But the vast majority of cases making it to the hospital haven’t had chloroquine. Don’t know what percentage are getting it at some point after hospitalization, but very likely way too few are.
Why do nurses like PMS?
Because, once a month, they get to act like doctors.
True dat.
Indian Bollywood actress Zoa Morani, her father and sister have tested positive for covid19. She’s in hospital. Here’s an article from Apr 11:
“The actress even shared that she has been administered a dose of Hydroxychloroquine tablets, and vitamins. And they are really working for her as she is feeling 40 times better now and might be discharged very soon.”
Isn’t that the “treatment” schedule?
I think that the schedule for just prevention, is one per week.
Don’t know for a fact, but I believe it is FAR less than what you said.
Note: I am not a doctor.
Check it out again. May I misspoke
800 mg loading dose day #1
400 mg maintenance every seventh day (once a week) for seven weeks
Half life 46 days. Should confer 90 days of prophylaxis
Oh.
(Oops)
Thanks!
““The actress even shared that she has been administered a dose of Hydroxychloroquine tablets, and vitamins. And they are really working for her as she is feeling 40 times better now and might be discharged very soon.””
so, doctors for the rich and famous in India are ignoring their governmental medical infrastructure overlords, so hopefully the doctors of the poor ignore them too ... i’ve also read that hydroxychloroquine can be purchased without a prescription in India, so that’s a very good thing for the poor if that’s true ...
It’s ok. I am tired enough I could have miswritten. It wasn’t the clearest statement I had ever made.
Happy easter to you.
You as well.
(Though it is now Monday here)
:)
Yes, HCQ could be more available to hospital patients than the government says. That’s the reason I posted the article.
BTW:
I’m American.
Inexpensive prevention is good. But then BIG PHARMA will not be able to make a ton of money on a vaccine!
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