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To: SeekAndFind

Nonsensical.

First, 80%? Anyone who takes a 1:5 chance against their lives is a fool.

Second, with all the crapping on Hydroxychloroquine which has proven itself as safe over 60 years of use, anyone who promotes a new drug that hasn’t been proven equally safe with decades of use has an agenda. Especially if it is only 80% which is far below the FDA’s own standards of 95%+ (or 2-sided 95% which is more like 97.5% effective and safe)

Given what we know now, at this time, hydroxychloroquine + azythromycin (depending on CV diseae) + Zinc/Copper elements, seems like an effective treatment to keep the virus in check while the immune system builds its own antibody response. That is how we humans will develop a herd immunity. HQC may be a good prophylactic, but at the very least it seems safe and effective for those who test positive and/or have symptoms and/or have underlying conditions (with some exceptions based on meds and pre-existing disease states).


6 posted on 04/11/2020 8:48:59 PM PDT by monkeyshine (live and let live is dead)
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To: monkeyshine

RE: Second, with all the crapping on Hydroxychloroquine which has proven itself as safe over 60 years of use, anyone who promotes a new drug that hasn’t been proven equally safe with decades of use has an agenda.

OK, I don’t want to argue with you. But Hydroxychloroquine AT THIS TIME, is not being used to prevent Covid-19. It is used to TREAT Covid-19.

A vaccine is designed to PREVENT one from getting the disease.

I will grant that there are studies right now to see if Hydroxychloroquine can be used to prevent Covid-19 as well, but we don’t yet know.

If it is eventually known that Hydroxychloroquine can prevent Covid-19 the way it helps prevent malaria, then a vaccine will be all but moot.


11 posted on 04/11/2020 9:00:17 PM PDT by SeekAndFind (look at Michigan, it will)
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To: monkeyshine

Compare that 80% effectiveness (if that’s what he meant — the article is not clear to me on that) with the 40% to 60% effectiveness typical for seasonal flu vaccines.

Also, consider the likelihood of dying, if you’re in the wrong demographic, or have conditions. The vaccine won’t add to that risk — but, at 80% effectiveness, you’re only 20% as likely to catch the Wuhan Virus. IOW, it could save the lives of 80% of those who take it. There would be no downside and plenty of potential upside to taking it.

If we were discussing a vaccine that had a 20% chance of actually killing you — then, we’d be discussing a vaccine that has no chance of getting approval.


19 posted on 04/11/2020 9:16:25 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: monkeyshine
First, 80%? Anyone who takes a 1:5 chance against their lives is a fool.

I think you're misinterpreting what she is saying. She is saying that at this point in the development and testing she is 80% confident that it will be a viable vaccine. She is not saying it will work only 80% of the time.

30 posted on 04/11/2020 11:16:57 PM PDT by KevinB ("Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge." - Charles Darwin)
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