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New signs suggest coronavirus was in California far earlier than anyone knew
LA Times via MSN ^ | April 11 2020 | Paige St John

Posted on 04/11/2020 1:33:50 PM PDT by rintintin

SACRAMENTO, Calif. — A man found dead in his house in early March. A woman who fell sick in mid-February and later died.

These early COVID-19 deaths in the San Francisco Bay Area suggest that the novel coronavirus had established itself in the community long before health officials started looking for it. The lag time has had dire consequences, allowing the virus to spread unchecked before social distancing rules went into effect.

“The virus was freewheeling in our community and probably has been here for quite some time,” Dr. Jeff Smith, a physician who is the chief executive of Santa Clara County government, told county leaders in a recent briefing.

How long? A study out of Stanford suggests a dramatic viral surge in February.

But Smith on Friday said data collected by the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, local health departments and others suggest it was “a lot longer than we first believed” — most likely since “back in December.”

(Excerpt) Read more at msn.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: California
KEYWORDS: coronavirus
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1 posted on 04/11/2020 1:33:50 PM PDT by rintintin
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“This wasn’t recognized because we were having a severe flu season,” Smith said in an interview. “Symptoms are very much like the flu. If you got a mild case of COVID, you didn’t really notice. You didn’t even go to the doctor. The doctor maybe didn’t even do it because they presumed it was the flu.”


2 posted on 04/11/2020 1:34:37 PM PDT by rintintin (qu)
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Shouldn’t Dr. Fauxcy [and his team - he does have team does he not?] claims they now have some test materials for serum testing.

Shouldn’t he be out running some quick field studies to answer some of the questions that the media keep pestering Trump bout?


3 posted on 04/11/2020 1:37:14 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: rintintin

Dr. Fauxcy [and his team - he does have team does he not?] claims they now have some test materials for serum testing.

Shouldn’t he be out running some quick field studies to answer some of the questions that the media keep pestering Trump bout?


4 posted on 04/11/2020 1:38:14 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: rintintin

The homeless seem to be immune from this virus. Otherwise, we’d be hearing non-stop stories about their suffering.


5 posted on 04/11/2020 1:38:30 PM PDT by Cowboy Bob (Mocking Liberals is not only a right, but the duty of all Americans.)
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To: rintintin

Ya think? - Good to know they are on the ball when it comes to post mortem. Let’s follow this one through and see what we can do better next time.


6 posted on 04/11/2020 1:39:12 PM PDT by shineon
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To: rintintin

My brother and sister-in-law who work at a theme park in LA sad one of their clients for one of your tours said she was from Wuhan. And my brother and sister-in-law also had flu-like symptoms for at least a week sometime around February. So this definitely Rings true with us.


7 posted on 04/11/2020 1:41:52 PM PDT by CincyRichieRich (Be still, and know that I am God...Psalm 46:10)
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To: rintintin

It was here in December, no doubt in my mind it was here..I know a few people who want the antibody test they believe they for sure had the virus..are we supposed to believe non stop flights from Wuhan to San Francisco, non stop flights from Wuhan to LAX and NO ONE on board had the virus


8 posted on 04/11/2020 1:42:31 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: rintintin

Shelter in place = closing the barn door after the cows have left. Makes it really convenient for Stalin wannabes in this state though.


9 posted on 04/11/2020 1:43:44 PM PDT by NohSpinZone (First thing we do, let's kill all the lawyers)
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To: Cowboy Bob

There are about 20 homeless here in LA County who supposedly have the virus, at least that is what we here everyday from the LA County of health during her press conferences everyday


10 posted on 04/11/2020 1:43:53 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: rintintin

Duh.


11 posted on 04/11/2020 1:45:19 PM PDT by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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To: rintintin

Leftists times trying to let China off the hook.


12 posted on 04/11/2020 1:47:51 PM PDT by desertfreedom765
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To: rintintin

Califronia had reported cases in January. So did Chicago and Madison WI. But they were handled and most thought to be over without added infections. California cities have little mass transit for cities their sizes. So they may have had much slower spread than NYC. And they have better weather that would help with vitamin D as well as separation.


13 posted on 04/11/2020 1:48:12 PM PDT by poinq
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Also, it wasn’t recognized (or perhaps, more correctly, ignored) because all attention was focused from the fall through January on impeaching President Trump on the slimmest of charges.


14 posted on 04/11/2020 1:55:25 PM PDT by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: rintintin

A bunch of modelers are about to be humiliated.


15 posted on 04/11/2020 1:56:06 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer)
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So far we ave 20,000 dead in the USA, and we Destroyed 50,000,000 Lives!!!


16 posted on 04/11/2020 2:03:25 PM PDT by eyeamok
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To: poinq

January 26th, the day that Kobe Bryant died in the helicopter accident, that morning I saw a news story here in LA about how there were two reported cases of the virus, one in LA County and one in Orange County and that soon they would each have a press conference about where those two people might have gone in the city..but when news broke of Kobe’s death, the story was dropped we never heard anything about it again..so Id like to know, where did those people go, what stores, restaurants, etc


17 posted on 04/11/2020 2:10:25 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: rintintin

If Obama were prez or a Klinton,this would be considered a bad flu season. SARS II would be handled like SARS I by guv and medi-duh.


18 posted on 04/11/2020 2:20:04 PM PDT by shanover (...To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.-S.Adams)
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There are all sorts of possibilities ...

... that similar Corona viruses, coming to CA from China for years, may have established some ‘herd immunity’ ... or (and) that certain European genomes (think: Latins) are more susceptible - check the stats coming out of Italy/France/Spain - it will take decades to sort out all of the theories.

Certainly the colder weather in the NE, combined with how tightly-packed NYC is (and the prevailing use of mass-transit) reproduced an Italy/France/Spain-like outbreak... big cities suck for a 1001 reasons ...

But, despite similar populations, the EU has had about 70K deaths so far - the USA about 19K to date.

(Anyone still think EU-style socialized medicine is a good idea?)


19 posted on 04/11/2020 2:20:58 PM PDT by Simon Foxx
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To: Sarah Barracuda

Exactly. The US did handle early outbreaks well. The outbreaks ended in most places. That is, until the colleges sent back their students. Then it all changed. A week after the NCAA tournament was ended 90% of counties had at least one case. And we are talking about places like North Platte and places in North Dakota far from the cities. The kids were sent off to colleges and came home with the virus. So, was it on purpose or was it just the way it worked out. Did all these Chinese students in January go back to school and come back with the virus unknowingly? Or did they spit on the entrance keypads and and elevator buttons of college dorms. Did they cough in class rooms on purpose or it just worked out that way.


20 posted on 04/11/2020 2:50:52 PM PDT by poinq
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