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Yes, Capt. Crozier Should Have Been Relieved Of His Command
The Federalist ^ | April 7, 2020 | Zachary Ziegler

Posted on 04/07/2020 6:50:22 AM PDT by Kaslin

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To: WHBates
has the authority to stop one if he feels it a danger to the mission

No he doesn't. Ships movements are directed by higher authority. Port visits by much higher authority. He can ask to redirect his ship, but it is only an ask.

21 posted on 04/07/2020 9:15:58 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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I don’t know. Part of me says the sailors needed dressing down.

I have insisted from the start that we have no CV front line asset in WestPac. If I were SecNav I’d be furious. This is the Navy not the Love Boat.

Something is really wrong with our Navy and this incident is only the tip of the iceberg. Heck. I’m willing to go back on active duty on TR to do my part to get them ship shape again.


22 posted on 04/07/2020 9:34:38 AM PDT by wiley (John 16:33: "In the world you have tribulation, but take courage; I have overcome the world.")
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To: AndyJackson

Liberty call is at the discretion of the CO.


23 posted on 04/07/2020 9:49:09 AM PDT by wiley (John 16:33: "In the world you have tribulation, but take courage; I have overcome the world.")
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My father was a ship’s doctor in the early 1950s.

His ship was carrying out operations in the High Arctic and higher ups ordered them to San Juan for a break.

The CO was pissed at the crew, so when gthey dropped anchor at San Juan, he announced over the intercom system, “There will be liberty, but no boats”.

The XO and some of the senior enlisted asked my dad to declare the captain unfit but he thought that would constitute mutiny so he declined.


24 posted on 04/07/2020 3:51:49 PM PDT by Jim Noble (There is nothing racist in stating plainly what most people already know)
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To: Kaslin

As a former sailor on a carrier, I agree with this article.

The Captain should not have revealed to the public the weakness of his ship to carry out it’s mission. Doing so put his ship and thousands of crewmen in danger from our enemies.


25 posted on 04/07/2020 5:29:49 PM PDT by octex
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To: AndyJackson

Very good posting, AJ.


26 posted on 04/07/2020 5:43:14 PM PDT by octex
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To: WHBates

If there was an Admiral aboard (there wasn’t), he would have relieved Crozier and the XO would have served as Captain.


27 posted on 04/07/2020 6:01:11 PM PDT by octex
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If there was an Admiral aboard (there wasn’t), he would have relieved Crozier

It's a bit complicated, but the Admiral on board is in his operational chain of command not his administrative chain of command, which runs from Commander Pacific Fleet to the Commander of Naval Air, who maintains and trains aircraft carriers. Personnel assignments go through the administrative chain.

28 posted on 04/07/2020 6:12:08 PM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: Kaslin

Thanks for the post.


29 posted on 04/07/2020 6:12:39 PM PDT by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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To: normbal

https://thefederalist.com/2020/04/07/yes-capt-crozier-should-have-been-relieved-of-his-command/


30 posted on 04/07/2020 6:15:06 PM PDT by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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If there was an Admiral aboard (there wasn’t).....

The TR is the flag ship of CSG-9 and Rear Adm. Stu Baker, commander, Carrier Strike Group (CSG) 9 is deployed with the strike force so where are you suggesting he was?

31 posted on 04/09/2020 4:29:38 AM PDT by WHBates
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Holy cow, could the ship had been sent there with goal to infect the personnel...


32 posted on 04/09/2020 4:40:49 AM PDT by mewzilla (Break out the mustard seeds.)
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Call me tinfoil hatted, but jeez louise, was the carrier sent to that locale in a deliberate attempt to infect the personnel on board.

We may have a lot bigger problems than the rhubarb over Crozier...


33 posted on 04/09/2020 4:44:29 AM PDT by mewzilla (Break out the mustard seeds.)
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This is a national security nighmare.


34 posted on 04/09/2020 4:46:00 AM PDT by mewzilla (Break out the mustard seeds.)
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And the dust up over Crozier and Modly makes a dandy distraction from a threat that’s cheap, easy to deploy, and very effective.


35 posted on 04/09/2020 4:48:27 AM PDT by mewzilla (Break out the mustard seeds.)
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BTTT.


36 posted on 04/09/2020 5:31:08 AM PDT by mewzilla (Break out the mustard seeds.)
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