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Cooperate With China? Not Until It Stops Lying About The Coronavirus
The Federalist ^ | April 7, 2020 | John Daniel Davidson

Posted on 04/07/2020 6:26:31 AM PDT by Kaslin

At every turn, China’s communist government has lied, censored, and tried to cover up the truth about the coronavirus, making cooperation impossible.


If you haven’t noticed, a narrative has been brewing the last couple of days that the United States should cooperate with China to tackle the coronavirus pandemic, that the two countries need to set aside their differences, stop the blame game, and come together for the good of the world.

In alternate reality where China hadn’t lied at every turn about the origin and extent of the virus, silenced and reprimanded a whistleblower who died from the virus, concealed vital information from the rest of the world, strong-armed the World Health Organization into lying about how the virus spreads, and continued to act in bad faith, cooperation would be great.

But in the real world, cooperating with Beijing is impossible because the Chinese government refuses to be honest about what happened, how it happened, and what’s happening now. Given what we know about the Chinese Communist Party’s dissimulation, together with strong evidence now emerging that the disease didn’t emerge in a Wuhan wet market but escaped from a nearby lab, there’s no reason to trust the CCP. And without trust, there can be no real cooperation

But that won’t stop the narrative. Here’s China’s ambassador to the United States, Cui Tiankai, writing in The New York Times on Sunday that “China is doing whatever it can to support the United States and other countries in need,” and asserting that we need to reject “scapegoating other countries or races.”

Last week, 100 Chinese academics signed an open letter to the American people calling for the two countries to set aside their differences and work together to curb the virus. “Political bickering does nothing to contribute to the healthy development of Sino-U.S. relations, nor will it help the people of the world to rationally and accurately understand and cope with the pandemic,” the scholars wrote.

It’s not just China and the New York Times pushing this narrative. On Friday, the Wall Street Journal reported that a group of prominent American foreign-policy experts, including former high-ranking White House officials from both parties like Susan Rice and Stephen Hadley, signed a statement calling on the Trump administration to work more closely with China.

“No effort against the coronavirus—whether to save American lives at home or combat the disease abroad—will be successful without some degree of cooperation between the United States and China,” read the statement.

In other words, the bipartisan consensus of experts who brought you Iraq, Afghanistan, Yemen, Libya, Syria, the Iran nuclear deal, and the Paris climate agreement find themselves in total agreement with the CCP’s propaganda machine. No surprise, they conclude that despite China’s manifest deception, obfuscation, and botched coverup of the outbreak, “the focus should be on finding the resolve to work together.”

Coronavirus Is China’s Chernobyl

Setting aside the dubious credibility of the foreign policy blob, one could just as easily argue the opposite, that no effort against the virus will be successful if it means cooperating with China, which at this point should be treated like the international pariah it obviously is.

We don’t even have clarity about how this thing started. To be clear, the conspiracy theories that the coronavirus is an engineered bioweapon that was either accidentally leaked or deliberately released are just as crazy as they sound. But there is mounting evidence—National Review’s Jim Geraghty goes into it here in some detail—that the virus was collected from wild bats, housed at a Wuhan research lab, and escaped that facility by accident.

In other words, China accidentally unleashed a global pandemic, lied about it, then tried to hide it. This whole thing is beginning to look less like the 1995 Dustin Hoffman film “Outbreak” and more like the real-life 1986 Chernobyl nuclear disaster—complete with an sloppy attempted coverup by a corrupt and brutal communist state

It’s not just the failed coverup that should make other countries reluctant to cooperate with the CCP. China’s recent show of sending medical aid to other countries isn’t just an effort to win back lost trust, it’s also a rather blatant effort to displace the United States as a global leader.

Even in this, it can’t be trusted. China has been mischaracterizing its transfer of equipment to hard-hit, desperate places like Italy, calling them donations when they’re really sales. Moreover, much of that equipment is defective, like the coronavirus tests that don’t work.

It’s worth noting that the bad actor here is the Chinese government, not the Chinese people, who are the victims of an authoritarian regime that doesn’t much care about the suffering or well-being of its people.

Even now, thanks in part to aggressive CCP censorship, it’s unclear what the virus’s toll has been in China or even if the situation is under control there. Since mid-February, some 780 million Chinese citizens, about half the country, have been on some sort of lockdown. In recent days, those restrictions were eased in some areas before being abruptly reinstated.

If China wants to cooperate with the United States, that’s great. It can start by giving the world credible numbers about how many Chinese citizens have really been infected, how many have died, and how exactly this plague got out to begin with.

Until then, there’s no reason for American leaders, or leaders anywhere, to believe anything the CCP says. Cooperation with such a regime, whatever its supposed benefits, should be out of the question.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: asia; ccp; chicoms; china; chinesecommieparty; communistchina; coronavirus; virus; wuhancoronavirus; xijinping
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1 posted on 04/07/2020 6:26:31 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

IF they told the whole truth, a lot of domestic, deep state RATs would likely be hanging from lampposts from sea to shining sea...sorta like Christmas decorations.


2 posted on 04/07/2020 6:32:17 AM PDT by lgjhn23 (Libs are a virus.....the DemoVirus!!)
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To: Kaslin

IF they told the whole truth, a lot of domestic, deep state RATs would likely be hanging from lampposts from sea to shining sea...sorta like Christmas decorations.


3 posted on 04/07/2020 6:32:33 AM PDT by lgjhn23 (Libs are a virus.....the DemoVirus!!)
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To: Kaslin

The USA needs to economically social distance itself FROM THE REST OF THE WORLD. In a word - tariff.


4 posted on 04/07/2020 6:34:05 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn....)
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To: lgjhn23
 
 
You can certainly say that again - oh wait, you did.
 
 

5 posted on 04/07/2020 6:34:06 AM PDT by lapsus calami (What's that stink? Code Pink ! ! And their buddy Murtha, too!)
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To: Kaslin

China could help, but doesn’t want to.

That should tell us something.


6 posted on 04/07/2020 6:34:40 AM PDT by Empire_of_Liberty
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To: Kaslin

Hmmmm.... reminds me of the scorpion and the frog story.


7 posted on 04/07/2020 6:36:38 AM PDT by LastDayz (A blunt and brazen Texan. I will not be assimilated.)
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To: lgjhn23
IF they told the whole truth, a lot of domestic, deep state RATs would likely be hanging from lampposts from sea to shining sea...sorta like Christmas decorations.

And a lot of media/entertainment people would be in hiding. REAL hiding.

8 posted on 04/07/2020 6:36:42 AM PDT by niteowl77
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To: Kaslin

“You’re with us, or you’re with the Communists”.


9 posted on 04/07/2020 6:40:30 AM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: Kaslin
The ChinaBots are all over the place trying to deflect blame. I’ve made a drinking game of publicly calling them out in forums, calling a spade a spade

亞洲病夫 (Sick Man of Asia) Chinese are sensitive about the subject...

The Chinese need to openly and transparently take full ownership of this situation. They need to make full reparations for the suffering they caused, and change their culture, all of it, into a modern civilization. Or they can crawl back into their hole and stew in their own filth, because Western societies are now fully aware of the dangerousness of their duplicity, filth, and decay.

Cancel all debt toward China, confiscate all property bought in the Western Economies, refuse to do commerce, Or they can crawl back into their hole and stew in their own filth, because Western societies are now fully aware of the dangerousness of their duplicity, filth, and decay

The ChinaBots are out in force, they tolerate poorly mockery, and are convinced of the superiority of the Middle Kingdom, well, they can just kiss my ass

I work in a hospital and daily face COVID

10 posted on 04/07/2020 6:40:55 AM PDT by HangnJudge (China Lied, People died, Never Forget, this Decade's 9-11)
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To: Kaslin
If China wants to cooperate with the United States, that’s great. It can start by giving the world credible numbers about how many Chinese citizens have really been infected, how many have died, and how exactly this plague got out to begin with.

China has, according to articles I have read, quit testing for WuFlu infection. They did so in order to maintain the fiction that they had no new cases.

I doubt they could come up with a valid number because of their prior decisions to avoid the truth.

Regarding the origin of the pathogen, it would be culturally demeaning for them to stray from their bat soup obfuscation recipe. This fact means they cannot allow themselves to be embarrassed by having to tell the truth at this point.

Especially if they have to be truthful to the "barbarian" President Donald J. Trump.

11 posted on 04/07/2020 6:42:42 AM PDT by MortMan (Shouldn't "palindrome" read the same forward and backward?)
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To: Kaslin

They’re communists. Like the muslims, they lie with impunity and just can’t be trusted. They will lie even when they know that you know they are lying.


12 posted on 04/07/2020 6:43:47 AM PDT by subterfuge (RIP T.P.)
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To: Empire_of_Liberty

Cooperate with Communist China only after we nuke its Beijing and all military assets


13 posted on 04/07/2020 6:50:31 AM PDT by Starcitizen (Communist China needs to be treated like the parish country it is. Send it back to 1971)
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To: central_va
Ooooo! "Economic Distancing". I like that!

I'm going to use that every chance that I can. All of us should.
14 posted on 04/07/2020 6:53:42 AM PDT by Subcutaneous Fishstick Blues
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To: Kaslin

What would be gained?


15 posted on 04/07/2020 6:58:12 AM PDT by gogeo (The left prides themselves on being tolerant, but they can't even be civil.)
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To: Kaslin

About half of the country already is cooperating with China. That’s how (and why) this thing started.

rwood


16 posted on 04/07/2020 6:58:39 AM PDT by Redwood71
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To: Kaslin

The Trail Leading Back to the Wuhan Labs!
Probably More Than You Ever Wanted to Hear about ‘Bat Soup’ . . .

The Trail Leading Back to the Wuhan Labs
By JIM GERAGHTY, April 3, 2020 1:20 PM

Medical workers in protective suits attend to a patient inside an isolated ward of the Wuhan Red Cross Hospital in Wuhan, the epicenter of the novel coronavirus outbreak, in Hubei Province, China, February 16, 2020. (China Daily via Reuters)

There’s no proof the coronavirus accidentally escaped from a laboratory, but we can’t take the Chinese government’s denials at face value.

It is understandable that many would be wary of the notion that the origin of the coronavirus could be discovered by some documentary filmmaker who used to live in China. Matthew Tye, who creates YouTube videos, contends he has identified the source of the coronavirus — and a great deal of the information that he presents, obtained from public records posted on the Internet, checks out.

The Wuhan Institute of Virology in China indeed posted a job opening on November 18, 2019, “asking for scientists to come research the relationship between the coronavirus and bats.”

The Google translation of the job posting is: “Taking bats as the research object, I will answer the molecular mechanism that can coexist with Ebola and SARS- associated coronavirus for a long time without disease, and its relationship with flight and longevity. Virology, immunology, cell biology, and multiple omics are used to compare the differences between humans and other mammals.” (“Omics” is a term for a subfield within biology, such as genomics or glycomics.)

On December 24, 2019, the Wuhan Institute of Virology posted a second job posting. The translation of that posting includes the declaration, “long-term research on the pathogenic biology of bats carrying important viruses has confirmed the origin of bats of major new human and livestock infectious diseases such as SARS and SADS, and a large number of new bat and rodent new viruses have been discovered and identified.”

Tye contends that that posting meant, “we’ve discovered a new and terrible virus, and would like to recruit people to come deal with it.” He also contends that “news didn’t come out about coronavirus until ages after that.” Doctors in Wuhan knew that they were dealing with a cluster of pneumonia cases as December progressed, but it is accurate to say that a very limited number of people knew about this particular strain of coronavirus and its severity at the time of that job posting.
By December 31, about three weeks after doctors first noticed the cases, the Chinese government notified the World Health Organization and the first media reports about a “mystery pneumonia” appeared outside China.

Scientific American verifies much of the information Tye mentions about Shi Zhengli, the Chinese virologist nicknamed “Bat Woman” for her work with that species.

Shi — a virologist who is often called China’s “bat woman” by her colleagues because of her virus-hunting expeditions in bat caves over the past 16 years — walked out of the conference she was attending in Shanghai and hopped on the next train back to Wuhan. “I wondered if [the municipal health authority] got it wrong,” she says. “I had never expected this kind of thing to happen in Wuhan, in central China.”

Her studies had shown that the southern, subtropical areas of Guangdong, Guangxi and Yunnan have the greatest risk of coronaviruses jumping to humans from animals — particularly bats, a known reservoir for many viruses. If coronaviruses were the culprit, she remembers thinking, “could they have come from our lab?”

. . . By January 7 the Wuhan team determined that the new virus had indeed caused the disease those patients suffered — a conclusion based on results from polymerase chain reaction analysis, full genome sequencing, antibody tests of blood samples and the virus’s ability to infect human lung cells in a petri dish. The genomic sequence of the virus — now officially called SARS-CoV-2 because it is related to the SARS pathogen — was 96 percent identical to that of a coronavirus the researchers had identified in horseshoe bats in Yunnan, they reported in a paper published last month in Nature. “It’s crystal clear that bats, once again, are the natural reservoir,” says Daszak, who was not involved in the study.

Some scientists aren’t convinced that the virus jumped straight from bats to human beings, but there are a few problems with the theory that some other animal was an intermediate transmitter of COVID-19 from bats to humans:

Analyses of the SARS-CoV-2 genome indicate a single spillover event, meaning the virus jumped only once from an animal to a person, which makes it likely that the virus was circulating among people before December. Unless more information about the animals at the Wuhan market is released, the transmission chain may never be clear. There are, however, numerous possibilities. A bat hunter or a wildlife trafficker might have brought the virus to the market. Pangolins happen to carry a coronavirus, which they might have picked up from bats years ago, and which is, in one crucial part of its genome, virtually identical to SARS-CoV-2. But no one has yet found evidence that pangolins were at the Wuhan market, or even that venders there trafficked pangolins.

On February 4 — one week before the World Health Organization decided to officially name this virus “COVID-19” — the journal Cell Research posted a notice written by scientists at the Wuhan Institute of Virology about the virus, concluding, “our findings reveal that remdesivir and chloroquine are highly effective in the control of 2019-nCoV infection in vitro. Since these compounds have been used in human patients with a safety track record and shown to be effective against various ailments, we suggest that they should be assessed in human patients suffering from the novel coronavirus disease.” One of the authors of that notice was the “bat woman,” Shi Zhengli.

In his YouTube video, Tye focuses his attention on a researcher at the Wuhan Institute of Virology named Huang Yanling: “Most people believe her to be patient zero, and most people believe she is dead.”

There was enough discussion of rumors about Huang Yanling online in China to spur an official denial. On February 16, the Wuhan Institute of Virology denied that patient zero was one of their employees, and interestingly named her specifically: “Recently there has been fake information about Huang Yanling, a graduate from our institute, claiming that she was patient zero in the novel coronavirus.” Press accounts quote the institute as saying, “Huang was a graduate student at the institute until 2015, when she left the province and had not returned since. Huang was in good health and had not been diagnosed with disease, it added.” None of her publicly available research papers are dated after 2015.

The web page for the Wuhan Institute of Virology’s Lab of Diagnostic Microbiology does indeed still have “Huang Yanling” listed as a 2012 graduate student, and her picture and biography appear to have been recently removed — as have those of two other graduate students from 2013, Wang Mengyue and Wei Cuihua.

Her name still has a hyperlink, but the linked page is blank. The pages for Wang Mengyue and Wei Cuihua are blank as well.

(For what it is worth, the South China Morning Post — a newspaper seen as being generally pro-Beijing — reported on March 13 that “according to the government data seen by the Post, a 55 year-old from Hubei province could have been the first person to have contracted Covid-19 on November 17.”)

On February 17, Zhen Shuji, a Hong Kong correspondent from the French public-radio service Radio France Internationale, reported: “when a reporter from the Beijing News of the Mainland asked the institute for rumors about patient zero, the institute first denied that there was a researcher Huang Yanling, but after learning that the name of the person on the Internet did exist, acknowledged that the person had worked at the firm but has now left the office and is unaccounted for.”

Tye says, “everyone on the Chinese internet is searching for [Huang Yanling] but most believe that her body was quickly cremated and the people working at the crematorium were perhaps infected as they were not given any information about the virus.” (The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention says that handling the body of someone who has died of coronavirus is safe — including embalming and cremation — as long as the standard safety protocols for handing a decedent are used. It’s anyone’s guess as to whether those safety protocols were sufficiently used in China before the outbreak’s scope was known.)

As Tye observes, a public appearance by Huang Yanling would dispel a lot of the public rumors, and is the sort of thing the Chinese government would quickly arrange in normal circumstances — presuming that Huang Yanling was still alive. Several officials at the Wuhan Institute of Virology issued public statements that Huang was in good health and that no one at the institute has been infected with COVID-19. In any case, the mystery around Huang Yanling may be moot, but it does point to the lab covering up something about her.

China Global Television Network, a state-owned television broadcaster, illuminated another rumor while attempting to dispel it in a February 23 report entitled “Rumors Stop With the Wise”:

On February 17, a Weibo user who claimed herself to be Chen Quanjiao, a researcher at the Wuhan Institute of Virology, reported to the public that the Director of the Institute was responsible for leaking the novel coronavirus. The Weibo post threw a bomb in the cyberspace and the public was shocked. Soon Chen herself stepped out and declared that she had never released any report information and expressed great indignation at such identity fraud on Weibo. It has been confirmed that that particular Weibo account had been shut down several times due to the spread of misinformation about COVID-19.

That Radio France Internationale report on February 17 also mentioned the next key part of the Tye’s YouTube video. “Xiaobo Tao, a scholar from South China University of Technology, recently published a report that researchers at Wuhan Virus Laboratory were splashed with bat blood and urine, and then quarantined for 14 days.” HK01, another Hong Kong-based news site, reported the same claim.

This doctor’s name is spelled in English as both “Xiaobo Tao” and “Botao Xiao.” From 2011 to 2013, Botao Xiao was a postdoctoral research fellow at Harvard Medical School and Boston Children’s Hospital, and his biography is still on the web site of the South China University of Technology.

At some point in February, Botao Xiao posted a research paper onto ResearchGate.net, “The Possible Origins of 2019-nCoV coronavirus.” He is listed as one author, along with Lei Xiao from Tian You Hospital, which is affiliated with the Wuhan University of Science and Technology. The paper was removed a short time after it was posted, but archived images of its pages can be found here and here.

The first conclusion of Botao Xiao’s paper is that the bats suspected of carrying the virus are extremely unlikely to be found naturally in the city, and despite the stories of “bat soup,” they conclude that bats were not sold at the market and were unlikely to be deliberately ingested.

The bats carrying CoV ZC45 were originally found in Yunnan or Zhejiang province, both of which were more than 900 kilometers away from the seafood market. Bats were normally found to live in caves and trees. But the seafood market is in a densely-populated district of Wuhan, a metropolitan [area] of ~15 million people. The probability was very low for the bats to fly to the market. According to municipal reports and the testimonies of 31 residents and 28 visitors, the bat was never a food source in the city, and no bat was traded in the market.

The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and the World Health Organization could not confirm if bats were present at the market. Botao Xiao’s paper theorizes that the coronavirus originated from bats being used for research at either one of two research laboratories in Wuhan.

We screened the area around the seafood market and identified two laboratories conducting research on bat coronavirus. Within ~ 280 meters from the market, there was the Wuhan Center for Disease Control & Prevention. WHCDC hosted animals in laboratories for research purpose, one of which was specialized in pathogens collection and identification.
In one of their studies, 155 bats including Rhinolophus affinis were captured in Hubei province, and other 450 bats were captured in Zhejiang province. The expert in Collection was noted in the Author Contributions (JHT). Moreover, he was broadcasted for collecting viruses on nation-wide newspapers and websites in 2017 and 2019. He described that he was once by attacked by bats and the blood of a bat shot on his skin. He knew the extreme danger of the infection so he quarantined himself for 14 days. In another accident, he quarantined himself again because bats peed on him.

Surgery was performed on the caged animals and the tissue samples were collected for DNA and RNA extraction and sequencing. The tissue samples and contaminated trashes were source of pathogens.

They were only ~280 meters from the seafood market. The WHCDC was also adjacent to the Union Hospital (Figure 1, bottom) where the first group of doctors were infected during this epidemic. It is plausible that the virus leaked around and some of them contaminated the initial patients in this epidemic, though solid proofs are needed in future study.

The second laboratory was ~12 kilometers from the seafood market and belonged to Wuhan Institute of Virology, Chinese Academy of Sciences . . .

In summary, somebody was entangled with the evolution of 2019-nCoV coronavirus. In addition to origins of natural recombination and intermediate host, the killer coronavirus probably originated from a laboratory in Wuhan. Safety level may need to be reinforced in high risk biohazardous laboratories. Regulations may be taken to relocate these laboratories far away from city center and other densely populated places.

However, Xiao has told the Wall Street Journal that he has withdrawn his paper. “The speculation about the possible origins in the post was based on published papers and media, and was not supported by direct proofs,” he said in a brief email on February 26.

The bat researcher that Xiao’s report refers to is virologist Tian Junhua, who works at the Wuhan Centre for Disease Control. In 2004, the World Health Organization determined that an outbreak of the SARS virus had been caused by two separate leaks at the Chinese Institute of Virology in Beijing. The Chinese government said that the leaks were a result of “negligence” and the responsible officials had been punished.

In 2017, the Chinese state-owned Shanghai Media Group made a seven-minute documentary about Tian Junhua, entitled “Youth in the Wild: Invisible Defender.” Videographers followed Tian Junhua as he traveled deep into caves to collect bats. “Among all known creatures, the bats are rich with various viruses inside,” he says in Chinese. “You can find most viruses responsible for human diseases, like rabies virus, SARS, and Ebola. Accordingly, the caves frequented by bats became our main battlefields.” He emphasizes, “bats usually live in caves humans can hardly reach. Only in these places can we find the most ideal virus vector samples.”

One of his last statements on the video is: “In the past ten-plus years, we have visited every corner of Hubei Province. We explored dozens of undeveloped caves and studied more than 300 types of virus vectors. But I do hope these virus samples will only be preserved for scientific research and will never be used in real life. Because humans need not only the vaccines, but also the protection from the nature.”

The description of Tian Junhua’s self-isolation came from a May 2017 report by Xinhua News Agency, repeated by the Chinese news site JQKNews.com:

The environment for collecting bat samples is extremely bad. There is a stench in the bat cave. Bats carry a large number of viruses in their bodies. If they are not careful, they are at risk of infection. But Tian Junhua is not afraid to go to the mountain with his wife to catch Batman.

Tian Junhua summed up the experience that the most bats can be caught by using the sky cannon and pulling the net. But in the process of operation, Tian Junhua forgot to take protective measures. Bat urine dripped on him like raindrops from the top. If he was infected, he could not find any medicine. It was written in the report.

The wings of bats carry sharp claws. When the big bats are caught by bat tools, they can easily spray blood. Several times bat blood was sprayed directly on Tians skin, but he didn’t flinch at all. After returning home, Tian Junhua took the initiative to isolate for half a month. As long as the incubation period of 14 days does not occur, he will be lucky to escape, the report said.

Bat urine and blood can carry viruses. How likely is it that bat urine or blood got onto a researcher at either Wuhan Center for Disease Control & Prevention or the Wuhan Institute of Virology? Alternatively, what are the odds that some sort of medical waste or other material from the bats was not properly disposed of, and that was the initial transmission vector to a human being?

Virologists have been vehemently skeptical of the theory that COVID-19 was engineered or deliberately constructed in a laboratory; the director of the National Institutes of Health has written that recent genomic research “debunks such claims by providing scientific evidence that this novel coronavirus arose naturally.” And none of the above is definitive proof that COVID-19 originated from a bat at either the Wuhan Center for Disease Control & Prevention or the Wuhan Institute of Virology. Definitive proof would require much broader access to information about what happened in those facilities in the time period before the epidemic in the city.

But it is a remarkable coincidence that the Wuhan Institute of Virology was researching Ebola and SARS-associated coronaviruses in bats before the pandemic outbreak, and that in the month when Wuhan doctors were treating the first patients of COVID-19, the institute announced in a hiring notice that “a large number of new bat and rodent new viruses have been discovered and identified.” And the fact that the Chinese government spent six weeks insisting that COVID-19 could not be spread from person to person means that its denials about Wuhan laboratories cannot be accepted without independent verification.


17 posted on 04/07/2020 7:00:41 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (NYers fleeing NY are presumed to be infected. They should be tested/quarantined in any other state!)
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To: Kaslin

Hey AG. Barr! How’s Diane Feinstein’s driver doing?


18 posted on 04/07/2020 7:07:16 AM PDT by rrrod (6)
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To: Subcutaneous Fishstick Blues
My sister in law is Taiwanese, but also an American citizen. She has been warning us of China's evils for over 20 years. She recently flew to Taiwan to vote, the new President of Taiwan is a woman and very anti China.

She and my brother own nothing made in China. They have deliberately outfitted their home with nothing from China. They have college age children now, who speak, read and write Mandarin.

19 posted on 04/07/2020 7:18:47 AM PDT by thirst4truth (America, What difference does it make?)
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To: Empire_of_Liberty

I’m starting the rumor that DiFi and other Dems with China connections are working with China and that they coordinated the release of the virus now to try to screw with the November elections...help me spread the rumor.


20 posted on 04/07/2020 7:47:57 AM PDT by trebb (Don't howl about illegal leeches, or Trump in general, while not donating to FR - it's hypocritical.)
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