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To: woodpusher

A very civilian and poorly understood analysis of the story. You might want to look at something other than San Fran Nantzi’s pals at the Chronicle. Like Navy Regs, UCMJ and the USNI Proceedings.

“The CO told my chief of Staff”— that would be the Chief of Naval Operations, 4 Star ADM Gilday of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, the Chief of Staff of the US Navy, who spoke directly to the CO of CVN 71. Hardly a short circuit. Baker to COMPACFLT ADM Aquilino to the CNO, who talked with all 3 before talking directly with Crozier. Public has Zip to do with it— until after the fact— this CO or somebody working for or on their own, concocted this silly letter. Might want to look at former SecNav Spencer, fired by Trump—eager screw up flyboy, who tried to defy a Navy Enquiry Board to override a US President in re a Navy SEAL CWO warfighter’s rank restoration and pension-and his flyboy pal Crozier. Spencer’s holdover staff could easily have screwed with Modly and the CNO for that matter, who couldn’t stand Spencer.

The CNO has the NIS report as of Monday— everything including emails and the leakers who would aid the chicom enemy for personal gain. Bout to get very real for them, in a Brig. Spencer was pals with another USNA flyboy—John McStain, remember? and both democrats in reality.

Very silly to try to parse the chain of command reality from the idiotic poofters at the Chronicle. The, “do ask an doooo tell” eaves droppers.


109 posted on 04/06/2020 11:50:29 PM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: John S Mosby
A very civilian and poorly understood analysis of the story.

I appear to have experienced several decades more Navy active duty than you, including carrier time.

“The CO told my chief of Staff”— that would be the Chief of Naval Operations, 4 Star ADM Gilday of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, the Chief of Staff of the US Navy, who spoke directly to the CO of CVN 71. Hardly a short circuit.

The CNO is not the Chief of Staff for SECNAV or anyone else. He has his own Chief of Staff. The Chief of Staff of Acting Secretary Modly is Bob Love. And it appears you were never in the Navy. You seriously think the senior military officer in the Navy is the Secretary's Chief of Staff.

The CO told my Chief of Staff that he was receiving those resources, and was fully aware of the Navy’s response, only asking that the he wished the crew could be evacuated faster. My Chief of Staff ensured that the CO knew that he had an open line to me to use at any time.

The Chief of Staff for SECNAV ensured Capt. Crozier he, Capt. Crozier, had an open line to SECNAV. Had Capt. Crozier directly initiated a contact with SECNAV, that would damn sure short circuit the chain of command.

The CNO has the NIS report as of Monday — everything including emails and the leakers who would aid the chicom enemy for personal gain.

Update your database. It has not been NIS since 1992. In 1991, NIS had that minor problem with its investigation of the Tailhook Scandal. A new agency was formed in 1992 called NCIS, Naval Criminal Investigative Service, with a civilian director. Did you make up this claim of an NIS report?

NCIS probably played a role in approving Vietnam as a port of call. They do that sort of thing.

The infection on the ship, and its docking in Guam, was in newspapers and on television long before Captain Crozier hit the send button. The infection on a Navy ship is far less controllable than on a cruise ship. The fact of over 100 infections was in the news when the ship docked. The ChiComs learned nothing new. The ship has been in port for nearly two weeks and there isn't even an expectation date of when it will return to service and get underway.

I will wait for a report which identifies the first group that got off the ship.

this CO or somebody working for or on their own, concocted this silly letter.

That thing appears to be an attachment to an email. It's numbered paragraphs follow naval letter format. The unnumbered BLUF paragraph stands out as an anomaly.

If anyone helped Capt. Crozier draft the text, it would have been a guy referred to as the Captain's Writer, normally a Chief Yeoman.

Baker to COMPACFLT ADM Aquilino to the CNO, who talked with all 3 before talking directly with Crozier. Public has Zip to do with it— until after the fact—

Do you have a bridge to sell me too? That whole sequence was after the fact damage control.

Riddle me this one. Why did Modly have to fly eight thousand miles to Guam? If all he went there for was to embarrass himself and the Navy over the 1MC, he could have piped it in from Arlington. He did not have to go Guam to give a speech over the 1MC. It's not like the 1MC is a tv transmission where they are watching him either.

The CNO has the NIS report as of Monday— everything including emails and the leakers who would aid the chicom enemy for personal gain. Bout to get very real for them, in a Brig.

Don't hold your breath. Trump said he was getting involved and an hour later Modly was publicly apologizing to Captain Crozier.

The vocal crew reaction caught during the Modly speech was, "What the F***?"

If anyone is going anywhere following an investigation, it is Modly or RADM Baker.

You might want to look at something other than San Fran Nantzi’s pals at the Chronicle. Like Navy Regs, UCMJ and the USNI Proceedings.

USNI Proceedings? A military magazine, seriously? Your lack of subject matter knowledge is showing. all you are missing is All Hands and Navy Times.

For disciplinary proceedings you left out the MCM and RCM, probably because you have never seen them. Plain and simple, you do not know what you are talking about. Your knowledge of military law and naval administration appears to be zilch. I have spent a great deal more time reading the MCM and UCMJ (the book, not the poster) than you had time in the Navy.

110 posted on 04/07/2020 12:18:31 PM PDT by woodpusher
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To: John S Mosby

Well, that did not take long. Modly is OUT.


111 posted on 04/07/2020 12:49:52 PM PDT by woodpusher
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