Dr. Deborah Birx: This Is Not the Time to Go to the Grocery Store

Breitbart ^ | 4/4/20 | Charlie Spiering

[david1292]

Dr. Deborah Birx said Saturday that Americans should especially focus on social distancing guidelines in the next two weeks to prevent the spread of the coronavirus.

“This is the moment to not be going to the grocery store, not going to the pharmacy, but doing everything you can to keep your family and your friends safe,” she said.

Birx noted that Pennsylvania, Colorado, and the Washington, DC, metro area were starting to have an increasing number of cases.

“We’re hoping and believing that if people mitigate strongly, the work that they did over the last two weeks will blunt that curve,” she said.

She pointed to really bad hotspots in New Jersey and New York, where cases of the virus and deaths were still going up.

“The next two weeks are extraordinarily important,” she said.

Dr. Anthony Fauci also said three or four hotspots were continuing to rise, but that certain areas could flatten the curve by social distancing.

“Just make sure everybody does the at least minimal amount of that physical separation, because the virus has no place to go if you’re physically separating,” Fauci said.

[Jane Long]

LOL....feel the same way, about knitting. I just don’t get it, and am envious of those who can.

An aunt tried to teach me to crochet, once.

I can make one heck of a long chain stitch...or what ever that first row is called :-)

[palmer]

The chart is wrong. Annual US mortality is 2.8 million, weekly is 54,000 but 60,000 during winter and < 50,000 during summer. Flu in Jan 2018 accounted for 10% of all mortality. The peak of the chart for 2018 (green line) is at least 6,000 not 1600 as shown on the chart.

Do you see that people are dying at a much faster rate with CCP-19?

Much? Not faster yet. It will be faster as Wuhan red death peaks. It will be 2x to 3x higher, with 2x to 3x more total mortality (100,000-240,000) than flu (80,000 in the worst years).

[chris37]

ttps://flutrackers.com/forum/forum/-2019-ncov-new-coronavirus/united-states-2019-ncov/842586-comparing-flu-and-covid-19-deaths?p=845573#post845573

There’s the source. Go take it up with him.

[palmer]

It does matter. The red death is worse, but exaggerating it doesn’t help the economy. The red death will have 100,000 to 240,000 deaths in the US by a variety of estimates. The worst flu season has 80,000 deaths in the US.

[ladyjane]

I was at Costco yesterday. It was slightly surreal

Hey Disambiguator, could you disambiguate?

[Disambiguator]

See my post 62 on this thread.

[Paladin2]

Your well done plot is of CV deaths/week and not cumulative, correct?

I’ve thought that there should be a daily plot and table of CV vs. current year flu deaths to be able to compare and see what is going on.

Weekly is more than adequate. They are dramatically different events.

Looks like Flu deaths for this season tend to be a few weeks behind real time in being reported. I guess we will have to see if these implemented actions to slow CV will also cause a sudden drop in Flu deaths this season.

[palmer]

No, I'm going to take it up with you. "A total of 2,839,205 resident deaths were registered in the United States in 2018" https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/products/databriefs/db355.htm That's 54,600 per week. Mortality is 10% higher in winter in the US, 15% in a bad flu year. That's 60,000 per week. The mortality from flu was 10% "Nationally, mortality attributed to P&I exceeded 10.0% for 4 consecutive weeks, peaking at 10.8% during the week ending January 20, 2018 (week 3)." https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/67/wr/mm6722a4.htm That's 6,000 deaths per week. Your chart shows about 1600. Your chart is wrong. If you disagree with any of those, then state which one is wrong and why.

[palmer]

The chart is wrong. See my previous comments.

[2111USMC]

Take off clothes outside

That'll really get the neighbors talking!

[palmer]

BTW, the black line for the CV deaths is correct and not cumulative. The flu lines are wrong.

[chris37]

No, you’re not.

I’m not going to be responding to anymore of your posts.

We’re done.

[chris37]

I can only direct you to where it came from. I didn’t construct this.

ttps://flutrackers.com/forum/forum/-2019-ncov-new-coronavirus/united-states-2019-ncov/842586-comparing-flu-and-covid-19-deaths?p=845573#post845573

[Paladin2]

But it sounds like the Flu lines could just be scaled up by an appropriate factor to get to close to the real values.

The shapes are fine, correct?

[palmer]

Yes, the shapes are correct. The worst recent flu season was 2017-18

[jetson]

Re: 330 - Why do you list sanitizing groceries 2X?

Zombie rule number four...Double Tap

[jetson]

You forgot...Don’t sniff anyone’s hair.

[snippy_about_it]

Our local Publix does not have pick-up and we are too rural for delivery so we found Lowe’s Foods allows pickup. They have an app where you can place your order and pay online, reserve an available pick up time, drive up, they load it in our pick up and off we go. We have done this twice in the last 30 days. We keep our distance from the person loading the truck. When we get home we wipe down every item before bring it into the house. Praying this will protect us from COVID and the flu as well. They try to pick a substitute for items they don’t have or just scratch them from the list. We were unable to get milk this last trip. I hope you might find a similar service in your area. Stay safe and assume everything is contaminated if you have underlying health conditions as we have. 🙏🏼

[chris37]

I’ve got several deliveries from Amazon coming soon. Until then, I am supplied from my earlier prep.

Fresh items are the trouble. Going to the store in the morning, then after that, I hope to hunker down again.

I’ve also been looking into instacart here, and yep I’ve got several co-morbidities.

Everything is a potential vector for me.