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There’s another side to the story of the fired Navy Captain
American Thinker ^ | April 4, 2020 | Andrea Widburg

Posted on 04/04/2020 9:30:04 AM PDT by jazusamo

Everyone is up in arms about the fact that the Navy brass fired Captain Brett Crozier, of the USS Theodore Roosevelt, a Nimitz-class nuclear-powered aircraft carrier, after Crozier complained about people on his ship being infected with COVID-19. To many people, he was a lone man fighting a hardened bureaucracy on behalf of the men and women in his care. To others, though, he was a dangerous malcontent who placed his entire ship at risk by ignoring rules that exist for a reason.

The report about Captain Brett Crozier, whose ship, the USS Roosevelt, was docked in Guam, broke like a bomb on March 31. Here’s the Stars and Stripes report on that day:

The captain of the USS Theodore Roosevelt has requested permission to remove most of the aircraft carrier’s crew from the ship and isolate roughly 4,000 sailors to help curtail a coronavirus outbreak aboard the vessel.

Capt. Brett Crozier wrote in an unaddressed letter Monday to Navy leadership that the ship’s environment is “most conducive to spread of the disease” with open shared sleeping areas, shared restrooms and workspaces, and confined passageways to move through on the ship. He wrote the Roosevelt’s crew is unable to follow Centers for Disease Control and Prevention or Navy procedures to protect the health of sailors through individual isolation on the ship for 14 or more days.

“Due to a warship's inherent limitations of space, we are not doing this. The spread of the disease is ongoing and accelerating,” Crozier wrote.

Crozier was an instant hero for taking a stand on behalf of his crew. Indeed, the Navy’s initial response was to say that Crozier would not be punished for being so candid about conditions aboard his ship.

However, two days after the Crozier story broke, the Navy removed him...

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: brettcrozier; captaincrozier; chainofcommand; coronavirus; crozier; guam; navy; relievedofcommand; usnavy; ussroosevelt; worstexcerptever
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To: cornfedcowboy

He deserves to be COURT MARTIALED!


21 posted on 04/04/2020 9:46:03 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion....... The HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: jazusamo

Mystery to me. Annapolis alum. F18 driver. What was his motivation to communicate in a way more non-secure than a middle school girl’s clique.

Not even drugs or alcohol would explain it.


22 posted on 04/04/2020 9:46:23 AM PDT by stanne
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To: Captain Walker

Or like an Emotional Thinker, who has no business commanding an aircraft carrier.

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It certainly does appear that his emotions were influencing his judgement. Not a good thing when you command such a poweful warship.


23 posted on 04/04/2020 9:46:36 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: absalom01
As with so much these days, this is just weird. The Navy does not just hand the keys to a freaking Nimitz-class flattop to a random airdale.

You sure about that? Remember there have been some odd ducks pretty high up in the chain of command in recent years.

24 posted on 04/04/2020 9:47:01 AM PDT by Steely Tom ([Seth Rich] == [the Democrats' John Dean])
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To: CondorFlight

Crozier would have SCreamed that his Superior ignored him, and that guy would be relieved of duty......that didn’t happen.


25 posted on 04/04/2020 9:48:21 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion....... The HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: jazusamo

Modly said Crozier had cc’ed more than 20 people, including some outside the chain of command, over unsecured and unclassified systems, assuring the memo’s leak.

He also said Crozier did not speak to his direct superior, carrier strike group commander Rear Adm. Stuart Baker, about his concerns before sending the memo, despite Baker being on the carrier and living within feet of Crozier.

Modly said Crozier was not fired for expressing concerns, but the way he chose to do so.


26 posted on 04/04/2020 9:48:54 AM PDT by Moonman62 (http://www.freerepublic.com/~moonman62/)
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To: CondorFlight

So leaks to liberal rags are the right thing to do if the one person next up on your chain of command won’t help you?

Really?

Imagine if spouses did that each time someone disagreed with them.


27 posted on 04/04/2020 9:56:24 AM PDT by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: jazusamo
Even if that were true it doesn’t justify Crozier sending letter to over 20 people knowing full well it would be leaked to press.

Truman/MacArthur 2.0?

28 posted on 04/04/2020 9:57:47 AM PDT by Don Corleone (The truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth)
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To: Don Corleone
Truman/MacArthur 2.0?

Yep...It sure sounds like it, it's very similar.

29 posted on 04/04/2020 10:03:59 AM PDT by jazusamo (Have You Donated to Keep Free Republic Up and Running?)
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To: Sir Napsalot

“ >>> The captain sounds like an 0bama perfumed prince.
Who will probably turn the Wesley Clark and Joe Sesstak route.”
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Yeh, agree. As an old E-4 Vietnam Vet I never bothered to learn navy ranks. But, I’m guessing a Nimitz class carrier commander would be at least a one star admiral? Whatever, should have a thorough understanding of the chain of command.....


30 posted on 04/04/2020 10:06:23 AM PDT by snoringbear (,W,E.oGovernment is the Pimp,)
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To: jazusamo

Bttt


31 posted on 04/04/2020 10:06:30 AM PDT by Guenevere (Press On!)
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To: Sir Napsalot

“ >>> The captain sounds like an 0bama perfumed prince.
Who will probably turn the Wesley Clark and Joe Sesstak route.”
*****

Yeh, agree. As an old E-4 Vietnam Vet I never bothered to learn navy ranks. But, I’m guessing a Nimitz class carrier commander would be at least a one star admiral? Whatever, should have a thorough understanding of the chain of command.....


32 posted on 04/04/2020 10:06:31 AM PDT by snoringbear (,W,E.oGovernment is the Pimp,)
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To: jazusamo

How did this guy ever make it to his position? My gosh, there was so much he could have done, should have done for a long time before ever going to this point. He announced to the world that one of our key assets for defense could be out of commission. Not only is that stupid for an O-6 it is more like treason in my book.

There was so much he could do:

1. Isolation ward on the hangar deck
2. Fly in test kits, even the WHO ones would work better than none
3. Seek advice from the Admiral within feet of him
4. Get his staff to come up with a plan of action
5. Cluster isolate people until you can test
6. Mask the crew
7. All hands turn out to clean and disinfect

but don’t send an email out to 20 people whining.


33 posted on 04/04/2020 10:13:59 AM PDT by Sequoyah101 (We are governed by the consent of the governed and we are fools for allowing it.)
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To: Steely Tom

Well, there is that, I’ll grant you.


34 posted on 04/04/2020 10:15:40 AM PDT by absalom01 (You should do your duty in all things. You cannot do more, and you should never wish to do less.)
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To: cornfedcowboy
Loose lips sink ships. Especially when the Commander emails an open letter to a newspaper.

It doesn't take much imagination to extrapolate the situation to assume that every ship in the fleet has been compromised in war fighting capability.

Any enemy can see this and it gives them an opportunity to act without fear of consequences.

If I was Taiwan, Vietnam or the Philippines, I would be very worried because of this memo right now.

35 posted on 04/04/2020 10:16:45 AM PDT by pfflier
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To: CondorFlight

That has already been proven to be exactly the case and the command had issued a public statement about the state of the ship (while doing exactly nothing) before the supposed grandstanding.

If the Captain hadn’t followed the chain of command first before taking his action...how could the statement be made.

The high command had him at the strawberries.


36 posted on 04/04/2020 10:17:19 AM PDT by MrEdd (Caveat Emptor)
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To: absalom01

None of this makes any sense at all.


Unless the good Captain is polishing his bona fides for his next gig as “military analyst” for MSNBC or CNN.


37 posted on 04/04/2020 10:18:04 AM PDT by HombreSecreto (The life of a repo man is always intense)
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To: CondorFlight

“What if the chain of command in this instance was unresponsive?”

In the military, your superiors have the right to NOT do things you think are critical. You don’t have to agree, but you MUST respect their right to overrule you. If you don’t, you have no authority as a commander.


38 posted on 04/04/2020 10:18:49 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools)
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To: CondorFlight

he was on the same ship (and “feet away”) from the fleet commander.....C’mon,man. SIX feet away. Sheesh!


39 posted on 04/04/2020 10:21:29 AM PDT by Safetgiver (Islam makes barbarism look genteel.)
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I will continue to contend that the reason the captain was removed from the ship was because Naval intelligence is going to get to the bottom of any possibility that this was a planned covert op to see if it was possible to take a ship offline biologically.


40 posted on 04/04/2020 10:24:50 AM PDT by Clutch Martin (The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right.)
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