Grim New Rules for NYC Paramedics: Don’t Bring Cardiac Arrests to ER for Revival

NBCNewYork ^ | 4/2/20 | Tim Winter

[Sasparilla]

Isn’t the hospital ship supposed to handle these type emergencies?

[Trump Girl Kit Cat]

Take them to the Mercy that is why they are in NY are these people that STUPID!!!

[Savage Beast]

Hey maybe they could pick out the people who are likely to have a cardiac arrest and pre-emptively make them comfortably but give no supportive care...

[stanne]

“Emergency officials tell NBC News the measure will alleviate an influx of patients from going to the hospitals that have no hope of being saved.”

Did anyone read the article?

These are always BS cases for the ER. Waste of time and resources. Now in addition, they would increase risk of exposure to this virus for all concerned. So. No. Don’t bring dead people to the ER. Sorry.

[mmichaels1970]

According to the order, which a senior FDNY official shared with NBC News, the mandate applies only to adult patients. If an adult patient has obvious signs of death like rigor or has a do not resuscitate order, EMTs will not try to revive the patient.

Thanks for reading and posting. So they're basically giving EMTs the authority to rule that an obvious death (or DNR) is death rather than tasking a doctor with it. Sound right?

[Trump Girl Kit Cat]

It is looking more and more like NY is a total cluster f#$&!, The damn ship is in the harbor specifically FOR THIS!!!

[stanne]

Sigh. No one read the article.

[wastoute]

Consider crating an about page. We know you’re a POS but just what kind might be interesting.

[Dave W]

The article is well documented. Sad that so many people in our country don’t know how to read or discern. Incredibly sad.

[dfwgator]

All so they can get their nice “Trump to City: Drop Dead” moment.

[stanne]

Read the article. A person who is in rigor mortis or who has a DNR designation is not an emergency case.

[Dave W]

People like you should be banned from here.

[Pajamajan]

Weird.

[cherry]

IIRC, the chances of surviving a cardiac arrest are dismal from the start...like 10% survival rate...

[Dave W]

I’m very sorry to know you are going through this...that is very tough. All the best to you and your dad.

[stanne]

“ Thanks for reading and posting. So they’re basically giving EMTs the authority to rule that an obvious death (or DNR) is death rather than tasking a doctor with it. Sound right? ”

Yes. And this ruling comes from FDNY not the ridiculous duo.

[mmichaels1970]

Did anyone read the article?

In my defense, I do find it difficult to follow NBC links. No excuse though. I read the excerpt only when I normally do go to the link. My bad.

When looking at the excerpt, I think we can agree that this is a good example of NBC sensationalizing our current situation to stoke and take advantage of people's fears and emotions.

You are right though, if you look past the NBC BS and actually get to the real story, it makes more sense.

[RockyTx]

should a (ambulance arrival)dead person be admitted to the
ER, or go somewhere else?

[oldplayer]

The EMT’s know the difference between “dead-dead” and “nearly dead.” Each year it’s only a very small number of real cases where the EMT’s can’t temporarily revive a patient at the site, transport to an ER, and then have the patient be “saved.”

That is my experience in law enforcement. FR has EMT’s and docs on here and I’d be interested in their experiences. I’ll stand corrected willingly if wrong.

(Of course, if you are one of the “saved,” it;s a pretty big deal on an individual level - the heck with statistics.)

[JonPreston]

Heartbreaking, and I’m so sorry for you and others in this situation. I know about sudden heart attacks, and not that life owes me another minute, but I would like to be around for our economic recovery, and the righteous anger I hope we bring down upon our elected, globalists rat politicians.