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Covid 19 and US Mortality - ALL 2020 US FLU DEATHS ARE DECREASING AT RAPID RATE
accordingtohoyt.com ^ | March 27, 2020 | I Ratel

Posted on 03/30/2020 2:55:56 AM PDT by dalight

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To: RonnG

Italy has a significantly older population than the US is only caveat I’d note to what you list. I’m also not convinced we are several weeks behind Italy - maybe 1 to 2 weeks. We have an insanely large # of Chinese visitors to Seattle/SF/LA/NYC each and every day and it’s likely this thing has been here since December or early January. That said, 100k deaths +-50k seems reasonable to me.


41 posted on 03/30/2020 5:15:20 AM PDT by rb22982
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To: dalight
-- ... the trend has been going for weeks and now it is down 20,000 deaths per week from last year. --

Injury and death from vehicle accidents must be down. NHTSA looks like a champ! Until the rebound.

I would think death from heart, cancer, and disease other than respiratory will be about the same. Overdoses about the same. I don;t know what that subotoal amounts to per week.

42 posted on 03/30/2020 5:19:42 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: dalight

Explain this data to me. Last week there were 9,748 people killed by the virus. Where is that on your first chart?

That looks like a reporting/recording lag to me, not a drop.


43 posted on 03/30/2020 5:20:28 AM PDT by Fido969 (In!)
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To: dalight

another thought on this year’s curve is on the january dip relative to other years.

in my mental wayback machine, i do not specifically recall very significant change of my personal habits. however i do distinctly recall the big uptick in the stock market. so, i wonder if the january dip has more to do with the big stock market uptick having a positive effect on folks’ life outlook than with any change in social habits related to covid-19.

(could one go back to 2001 and 2008 to see if there were similar dips? the weeks and seasons of the year would not line up well...)


44 posted on 03/30/2020 5:23:45 AM PDT by SteveH (intentionally blank)
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To: RonnG
-- If the US is several weeks behind Italy and we use Italy's model as a guide ie assuming the worst case, then we can expect nearly 60,000 deaths in the US in a few weeks time and another 60,000 deaths to follow or 120,000 total deaths. --

That was the projection delivered yesterday. 80-180,000 total in the US. Fauci and Birx provide the input to the model that delivers that result, so the values are basically "theirs," which of course is based on work of many more people.

I think a significant part of the data in is garbage. Not to say the virus isn't a serious risk. Just quibbling over the magnitude.

45 posted on 03/30/2020 5:24:28 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: DAC21

Doctors are taking Plaquenil proactively. It really is working.


46 posted on 03/30/2020 5:28:15 AM PDT by AppyPappy (How many fingers am I holding up, Winston?)
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To: AndyJackson

we should expect the peak in the next 2-3 weeks.
There are lots of hotspots that could sustain this for a few weeks as their cases grow.>>>>
i just thot of this also. Mayber there are a whole lot of old folks who are in their houses and are dead but haven’t been found yet? /s lol


47 posted on 03/30/2020 5:32:09 AM PDT by kvanbrunt2 (spooks won on day 76)
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To: Fido969
-- Last week there were 9,748 people killed by the virus. --

Graph is for US only, and the TOTAL deaths by WuFlu in the US is around 2,000 total. No way did 9,748 people die in the US, of WuFlu, last week.

48 posted on 03/30/2020 5:32:18 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Graybeard58

If you look at traffic fatalities and note there is no traffic and no accidents of consequence, due to Stay At Home orders, then, yes, our COVID response has stopped normal death rates on that, and flu, cold, etc.

It’s pretty easy to understand.


49 posted on 03/30/2020 5:40:52 AM PDT by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: dalight

Maybe we could step up precautions in Dec and Jan every year.


50 posted on 03/30/2020 5:41:43 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: SteveH

“perhaps some of the policies will become permanent?”

Indeed.

And people who are watching policy changes will recognize opportunities and ride that wave to create new businesses and societal models that will generate new wealth for themselves and others.

Americans are darn good at innovation and applying entrepreneurial skills.


51 posted on 03/30/2020 5:42:00 AM PDT by sergeantdave (Teach a man to fish and he'll steal your gear and sell it)
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To: dalight

No national shutdowns in previous years.


52 posted on 03/30/2020 5:44:25 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: dalight

LOve to see that someone did this. I was wondering if there would be such an effect!


53 posted on 03/30/2020 6:06:07 AM PDT by dangus
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To: dalight

Looks good, but the decrease in overall deaths is hard to believe. Data reporting problem?


54 posted on 03/30/2020 6:16:49 AM PDT by dangus
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To: Cboldt
No way did 9,748 people die in the US, of WuFlu, last week.

You're right, my mistake.

55 posted on 03/30/2020 6:30:08 AM PDT by Fido969 (In!)
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To: dangus

Its the CDC official numbers. Frankly, auto deaths are very likely off because no one is driving. And pneumonia isn’t the only way to die.. so prolly impacting othere infectious diseases.. but not a reporting error.. dead is dead.. hard to fake those numbers.


56 posted on 03/30/2020 6:41:34 AM PDT by dalight
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To: 9YearLurker

How many $millions per life saved? Well, there’s that.


57 posted on 03/30/2020 6:43:13 AM PDT by dalight
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To: DannyTN

That’s the message I am seeing.


58 posted on 03/30/2020 6:43:37 AM PDT by dalight
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To: Fido969

I think you are confusing US statistics with World Statistics


59 posted on 03/30/2020 6:44:26 AM PDT by dalight
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To: dalight

I don’t trust anything coming from the CDC, they are more concerned with Climate Change than this Pandemic.


60 posted on 03/30/2020 6:45:30 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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