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To: SeekAndFind

So he treated 80 patients who were “had the virus (no mention of severity but sounds like “mild”) and two went on to become severe. If you check my “in forum” i posted the day this crap came out that “It may very well be this drug prevents or reduces asymptomatic people form a longer, more severe illness.” What is needed is a drug to help the people who present for the first time very ill (blue people) and (from my knowledge of the drug) I seriously doubt this works ‘as advertised’.”

I spent years of my life in ICUs. I may not be current but no one is going to bullshit me about what goes on in ICUs.

I would also point that some 95% people who get it are asymptomatic or mild. I could randomly select people who test positive and DO NOTHING and get the same result as Raoult. He is “highly respected” but I’m not sure by whom. Not me.


18 posted on 03/29/2020 12:16:49 PM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: wastoute; plushaye
The governments of France, Italy and now India have authorized the use of the HCQ regimen, and Bahrain and Morocco have also approved it.

You're losing ground, wasteoftime.

The only buffoons still firmly in your corner are halfWhitmer and Nevada's Jive Sypholak.

My prediction is Spain is going to come on board within a couple of days.

20 posted on 03/29/2020 12:23:42 PM PDT by kiryandil (Chris Wallace: Because someone has to drive the Clown Car)
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To: wastoute

You said:

“It may very well be this drug prevents or reduces asymptomatic people form a longer, more severe illness.”

My response: With even this benefit,
the use of these drugs will be of help. Why would we not want to possiblity reduce longer, more severe illnesses?

RE: What is needed is a drug to help the people who present for the first time very ill (blue people) and (from my knowledge of the drug) I seriously doubt this works ‘as advertised’.”

So let me try to understand what you want, your objection to the study made by Dr. Raoult is he did not present in his paper, the extent or degree of illness in his 80 patients and you suspect that he was so careless and quick to “advertise” his results that he ONLY took patients who could have been cured on their own? (i.e, patients who did not display illness?)

Is that an accurate understanding of your objection?


22 posted on 03/29/2020 12:33:01 PM PDT by SeekAndFind (look at Michigan, it will)
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To: wastoute

By the way, before you use the word “trash” or “crap” to describe Dr. Raoult’s study, the least you could do is to READ HIS PAPER.

You said you suspect that his patients were asymptomatic (i.e., culled and selected to produce favorable results).

The paper describes his selection criteria. Please read it and tell everyone in this thread what’s objectionable with the sort of patients he selected for his test.

Here is the paper:

https://www.mediterranee-infection.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/COVID-IHU-2-1.pdf


23 posted on 03/29/2020 12:42:56 PM PDT by SeekAndFind (look at Michigan, it will)
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To: wastoute
I could randomly select people who test positive and DO NOTHING and get the same result as Raoult.

Really? You think you will see viral clearance as fast as his and his 17 coauthors) PCR measurements show?

If that were true, wouldn't we be seeing reports of much faster recovery, and much faster times to no measurable virus from patients everywhere?

24 posted on 03/29/2020 12:58:21 PM PDT by freeandfreezing
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