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So it appears that the national bail out isn't THAT important. Anyone else ever have to work holidays on here?
1 posted on 03/26/2020 9:09:21 AM PDT by rktman
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Spreading all that pork around is tiring don’t you know?

Plus they have to report back directly to their big donors and detail how each donor is going to profit from Porkulus 2.


2 posted on 03/26/2020 9:11:48 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire. Or both.)
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Link to CARES ACT bill:

https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/senate-bill/3548/text

If anyone feels the need to read this crap. Of course nanzi has already said “We’ll see.” So it could all be for naught.


3 posted on 03/26/2020 9:12:23 AM PDT by rktman ( #My2ndAmend! ----- Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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2 Trillion here, 3 Trillion there.....and pretty soon, you are talking real money.



4 posted on 03/26/2020 9:15:07 AM PDT by SkyPilot ("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)
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Recess? The rest of the country is on a forced “recess”, and Congress sees no problem with taking their normally scheduled days off? On the other hand, at least they can’t do any more damage while they’re off.


6 posted on 03/26/2020 9:16:38 AM PDT by noiseman (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.`)
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National Debt , something to attack Trump with ,D’oh


7 posted on 03/26/2020 9:18:33 AM PDT by butlerweave
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Under the circumstances of a national emergency, why isnt Congress in session as needed? Last chance before Easter break????

If I recall correctly, the President can call the Congress into session at his discretion. He should cancel their Easter break and tell them to stick around to pass needed legislation.

This is no time for a Congressional vacation.


10 posted on 03/26/2020 9:20:05 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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It seems to me a more credible threat would be to say that the Senate would not recess until a bill acceptable to the President was passed.


12 posted on 03/26/2020 9:22:08 AM PDT by Paul R. (The Lib / Socialist goal: Total control of nothing left wort h controlling.)
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This is McConnell at his hardball best. He's just told Pelosi that this is a take it or leave it bill, and that she can't play any more games because the Senate won't be there to take up another bill.

If the House doesn't pass this, all the blame will go on her and the Democrats. That would be catastrophic for them, so they'll pass it.

It's checkmate.

14 posted on 03/26/2020 9:23:43 AM PDT by Bruce Campbells Chin
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“Conservative Inc” need to stop with the knee jerk ideological reactions.

If China had declared war on the US none of you would say a word about this spending. This China Virus is doing more damage to the US, and the World, economy then any war in our history.

Yes we all wish this was not necessary. Yes, we wish this was a clean bill without the usual pork vote buying tactics. Well welcome to the messy workings of legislative politics in a Constitutional Republic.

People have to deal with the world as it is right now, not as they wish it would work. We can go back to the ideological wars in 30 days.

Corporations employ tend of millions of people. Corporations are everything from your local privately own gas station down the street to massive operations like Ford or Delta Airlines.

Corporations have debt they have to play just like people. For example, When they build a new store or plant, they borrow money to finance the capital expense. In addition, they do not usually pay cash for daily supply delivers. Those are purchased are made on credit with 15-30-45-60 days to make payment. All those debt payments still have to be made even thought the Government shut them down or put a lock down on their customers.

Here is an example. I work for a Food Manufacturing corporation that employs about 5,000 people nation wide. Due to the loss of business from the slow down, they just cut all Executive and Sr Management salaries 20%. If this goes one 2 more weeks, they will cut middle management salaries, if it goes on a month they have to cut all salaries. After that they start laying off worker bees like me and shutting down production lines. Why? Because they have to have the money to make their debt payments now and hope they can make it up to employees later.

We are an “Essential Business” not shut down like the Airlines or the Car companies. The US, and the World, are on the brink of a financial crisis like nothing seen since the 1929.

Those credit bills have to be paid even if they are shut down by Government order. The people supplying them need to be paid so they can pay their creditor and so on and so on.

If they are not paid, this will trigger a cascading financial default on scale with what happened in 1929.We not talking about just crashing our economy here, we talking trashing the worlds economy if this is not addressed You are “:worried about “the Future”? “The Future will not thank you if you crash the economy out of knee jerk ideological dogmas now and let the Democrats recreate the Command and Control Economy of the FDR years for the next 2 decades


21 posted on 03/26/2020 9:35:41 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (They would have abandon leftism to achieve sanity. Freeper Olog-hai)
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One provision debated was the payouts to those unemployed which were seriously larger ($600@month) than unemployment checks-—which would incentivize some to sit home and collect the larger check, as well.

Will the threat of severing their relationship with their employer and losing their job, and looking for another outweigh 4 months of larger checks ? As I figure it, 4 x $600 plus another $1,200, plus an approx. $1,000 unemployment approaches a $4,500 or more. That’s a tidy sum and tempting for many, imho.

If so, it slows the recovery, which is why Graham, Sasse & Barasso hedged.

Moot point I suppose, since Rs acted like they were over a barrel. To hold it up, OTOH, could be disastrous for those in charge; Senate Rs and DjT.


23 posted on 03/26/2020 9:47:50 AM PDT by chiller (Davey Crockett said: "Be sure you're right. Then go ahead." I'm goin' ahead.)
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Gov. Andrew Cuomo (D-NY) just now blamed the “federal government“, i.e. Trump, for delaying economic assistance.
It was Speaker Pelosi (D-CA) who did it.
She and Schumer (D-NY) never miss an opportunity to lie and obfuscate.

Coetus Democratorum delendus est!


24 posted on 03/26/2020 9:52:53 AM PDT by gasport (Pray for the people of Captive China)
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Gangster’s Paradise that BIG GOV.

U.S.S.A. United Socialist States of America lock down citizens, hold rest of republic HOSTAGE.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcsvE1zv1ek

Socialism Is Legal Plunder and DEATH. WITNESS history and current events.

https://usdebtclock.org

PROPAGANDISTS are essential.

ENEMIES domestic.


25 posted on 03/26/2020 9:55:10 AM PDT by PGalt
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Given the HYSTERIA around the topic, 10 MINUTES OF COMMON SENSE from a scientist in the field.
Has anyone VETTED the SCIENTISTS now surrounding & “advising” Trump? How many are leftist Democrats with a political agenda? Consider the STILL NOT CLEANED OUT Deep State INFECTED DOJ & God knows how many other government departments.
Have we ever been lied to by the managerial class in government whose jobs depend on how submissive they can keep the rest of us?
How many of them HATE TRUMP & his stated goal to DRAIN THEIR SWAMP?
Heard the stories that CDC employees wept when Trump beat Hillary? How objective would THOSE folks be collecting & analyzing the data? And wouldn’t a “SCARE” like this serve to open the tax slave (er PAYER) money sigot for them, as another government operation, to piss away on “research” (or whatever)?
Anybody know???
I didn’t think so.
One final thought: Could this just be another of the periodic tests conducted by Deep State leftists who would be more at home in Stalin’s Russia than Trump’s America to see if their century long socialist indoctrination in the GOVERNMENT SCHOOLS has enough of us sufficiently DUMBED DOWN to make their long awaited FINAL PUSH?
Just asking evidence based questions here.

https://youtu.be/p_AyuhbnPOI


29 posted on 03/26/2020 10:13:45 AM PDT by Dick Bachert (THE DEEP STATE HATES YOU!)
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ALL of our politicians are wicked, stinking, fetid, sick, demented crooks and thieves. EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM.


35 posted on 03/26/2020 10:50:41 AM PDT by Mathews (Ecclesiastes 10:2 (NIV), Luke 22:36 (NIV))
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37 posted on 03/26/2020 11:08:01 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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