Posted on 03/25/2020 11:16:44 PM PDT by Its All Over Except ...
Status of COVID-19
As of 19 March 2020, COVID-19 is no longer considered to be a high consequence infectious diseases (HCID) in the UK.
The 4 nations public health HCID group made an interim recommendation in January 2020 to classify COVID-19 as an HCID. This was based on consideration of the UK HCID criteria about the virus and the disease with information available during the early stages of the outbreak. Now that more is known about COVID-19, the public health bodies in the UK have reviewed the most up to date information about COVID-19 against the UK HCID criteria. They have determined that several features have now changed; in particular, more information is available about mortality rates (low overall), and there is now greater clinical awareness and a specific and sensitive laboratory test, the availability of which continues to increase.
The Advisory Committee on Dangerous Pathogens (ACDP) is also of the opinion that COVID-19 should no longer be classified as an HCID.
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Under their guidelines, only 2 hospitals can treat HCID patients. This allows patients to be treated at all facilities.
Even the worst of the MSM can't spin Coronavirus into smallpox, anthrax or Ebola. The best they can hope for is a play on people's ignorance, which has been shown in the past to be a pretty good strategy.
According to this, it looks like most, but undoubtedly not all, can now be treated with normal protocol.
My rudimentary knowledge of the subject is that hydroxychloroquine allows the ionic zinc to invade the cell. Zinc stops the RNA from replicating while the hydroxychloroquine changes the pH within the cell to further stop it from replicating.The azithromycin stops other infections from occurring as a result of the weak immune system. For whatever thats worth. Amen.
Check out the movie Poltergeist.
And it looks like most patients can now be treated with normal protocol.
Under the laws for HCID, these are the only treatment centers. How can they handle CV patients at only these 2 locations. They realize its serious, but not like Ebola and can losen the legal jargon in order to treat at ALL medical facilities as they/we are in very contagious pandemic.
There are 2 principal Contact HCID Treatment Centres in England:
the Royal Free London High Level Isolation Unit (HLIU)
the Newcastle Royal Victoria Infirmary HLIU.
Further support for managing confirmed contact HCID cases is provided by the Royal Liverpool Hospital and the Royal Hallamshire Hospital, Sheffield.
But it looks like they now beieve that most can now be treated with normal protocol.
Last time needing to say it.
Yes. It doesnt change how contagious or potentially serious it is. It just changes legal jargon as the NHS is a machine.
Whatever normal protocol is.
Yeah, it is so very annoying to see the MSM continue beating their 3+ year hate Trump war drums. Everything is Trump’s fault. Like he’s supposed to personally manage every agency. If so, then why bother having these agencies at all?
It is so patently clear that the CDC (and HHS) and the FDA screwed this up. There was an article in the Washington Examiner, quoting the LA Times and Bloomberg, that the CDC used up 100 million masks during the 2009 swine flu epidemic (that killed 12,000 people including many children) and the Obama admin people never replenished the stockpile. We didn’t shut the country down then, and the death toll from that was 10x worse than CV19 (so far, anyway, it could get worse).
Then the CDC screwed up the testing protocols because they had one bad reagent out of 3 used. Took them 2 more weeks then they ultimately they just told everyone to ignore that reagent and rely on the other 2. And so much more.
And all of this is the fault of the CDC and FDA regulations that went into effect after 2009. They were embarrassed and wanted to look like they were “doing something” to fix the 2009 errors, but all they ended up doing was make it next to impossible to do anything at all. They stripped all the states and private labs of the ability to run their own novel testing techniques, using their own equipment and their own reagents and methods, or look for their own unique disease markers. So stupid. There is so much capacity, energy, and brain power in this country. We have thousands of private labs that do blood tests 1000’s of times a day. But none of them were allowed to develop their own methods, or use different reagents etc. It all had to go through the federal sites and that command control style of government flat inhibits innovation and creativity and progress. They think they are the experts at everything and think the rest of the country are ignoramuses when the truth is the rest of the country is smart and productive and drives all innovation. None of these drugs or test were developed by the government agencies. None of them! But they want to control how, when, why, and where to use them. It’s asinine.
And the media needs to figure it out. Federal bureaucracies are worse, not better, than the marketplace of ideas. Or like Reagan said, government is the problem not the solution. Trump should be applauded for closing down travel from Asia, and for opening up testing to states and private labs, and for leaning on the FDA to loosen the use of various promising drugs.
In the end, it’s not hard to understand why the liberal MSM is avoiding reporting on this. If it is bad news, they will trumpet it.
It changes nothing tho other than they can now treat at all locations and it may remove some restrictions. Under the original protocol, they would treat as if it was Ebola for instance.
All immune compromised patients in the UK were ordered on Tuesday that they could not leave the inside of their home for 12,weeks. If they have some amount of time post chemo - they can go in the yard. But, only with individual approval by their dr
I am speaking with people multiple times a day in the UK as we are all immune compromised. They are keeping me updated. Your post makes it sound like oh its not so bad after all. Not true.
I may be wrong but I think this probably does qualify as bad news. It’s enough of a threat to the UK that they’ve had to relax their classification standards to be able to have the facilities to deal with it.
Maybe i misunderstood what HollyB was getting at.
Exactly because the NHS is a machine.
Thank you. I guessed it was something along those lines. There was some research suggesting that certain beta blockers lock the cell receptors, so the virus has no place to interface with cells and just dies. But your thoughts are as good as any to me. Changing the pH makes sense I suppose viruses need a specific set of circumstances to replicate and thrive. Maybe something as simple as changing the body chemistry for a short time would work, e.g. raise the blood pH just a little bit. I know there is some thought that raising blood pH could fight off cancer cells.
I have just very rudimentary knowledge - enough to get me in trouble sometimes lol. But I like to be corrected when I am wrong. Science has no ego and when discussing science I have a lot to learn, and I want to learn more as I can absorb it. I am only on the periphery of chemistry but I have some experience following (but not actively involved with) some drug development and testing.
Probably just some kind of cost cutting measure for their socialized medicine system.
The real question is if the rest of the medical profession in the area will take note or simply brush the results off.
Odds are good for the latter.
Have had a breathing issue myself for the past seven or eight years, irritation of the airway, docs keep looking at the lungs but not the airway.
After all, what does the patient know about where the discomfort is?
So the odds are pretty good that any results he gets will be dismissed out of gand by my local docs.
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