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To: semimojo
Maybe not, but just as for flu it will save millions of lives around the world over the next decade.

Oh it will? Really? Where's the data to prove this? Did you get it from a CDC fact sheet?

Show me the peer reviewed double blind clinical studies proving the efficacy of the flu vaccine (Not some study that gathered a bunch of data from various publications about hospitalization rates). Show me the data that proves areas with higher rates of vaccination have lower rates of flu cases. Best of luck in your search.

By the way, how do you maintain natural immunity to a mutating virus?

Oh, yeah right...that little tidbit they feed the masses to explain why at best the flu vaccine is only 50% effective.

Ooopsie...guess we picked the wrong strain this time. But don't worry, next year we'll do better.

I'll tell you how you maintain natural immunity - by allowing normal healthy human beings let their own bodies create it naturally to a LIVE, REPLICATING VIRUS. Not some extracted protein or a killed or attenuated virus that your body does not recognize as a real threat.

I guess you are conceding that the vaccine does NOT prevent the ability to spread the virus. If so then can we at least agree to allow free citizens to choose whether or not they want to receive the vaccine, rather than trying to get Daddy Government to force it on those who don't want it?

93 posted on 03/26/2020 11:21:35 AM PDT by Shethink13 (there are 0 electoral votes in the state of denial)
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To: Shethink13
Show me the peer reviewed double blind clinical studies proving the efficacy of the flu vaccine (Not some study that gathered a bunch of data from various publications about hospitalization rates).

As you probably know there are ethical problems with withholding flu vaccine so the studies tend to be more observational, but they are compelling and rely on more than hospitalization rates.

Now show me the peer reviewed double blind clinical studies proving antibodies created in response to a live, replicating virus provide better protection than ones created in response to a vaccine created for that same strain.

I guess you are conceding that the vaccine does NOT prevent the ability to spread the virus.

Prevent? No. Attenuate? Yes.

then can we at least agree to allow free citizens to choose whether or not they want to receive the vaccine, rather than trying to get Daddy Government to force it on those who don't want it?

I don't know where you live but nowhere in the US requires flu vaccination as far as I know.

94 posted on 03/26/2020 12:03:57 PM PDT by semimojo
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