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To: Steely Tom

“I wonder why the cytokine storm ?”

It’s an immune system over-reaction to the strange virus. A massive over-reaction that if it’s in the lung can drown you in antibodies.

The 1918 flu is suspected to have caused cytokine storms in tbe young and healthy. Healthy adults could develop flu symptoms in the morning and be dead by evening. Normal flus kill by secondary pneumonia. Hybrid animal/human flus can provoke cytokine storm.

This Covid-19 virus is largely a bat coronavirus. So I suppose like hybrid flus that makes it something of a zoonotic disease


87 posted on 03/25/2020 7:36:36 PM PDT by Pelham (RIP California, killed by massive immigration)
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To: Pelham; ifinnegan; FreeReign
It’s an immune system over-reaction to the strange virus. A massive over-reaction that if it’s in the lung can drown you in antibodies.

The 1918 flu is suspected to have caused cytokine storms in tbe young and healthy. Healthy adults could develop flu symptoms in the morning and be dead by evening. Normal flus kill by secondary pneumonia. Hybrid animal/human flus can provoke cytokine storm.

This Covid-19 virus is largely a bat coronavirus. So I suppose like hybrid flus that makes it something of a zoonotic disease

Would cytokine storm explain why some patients laugh it off and others go critical?

103 posted on 03/25/2020 7:41:20 PM PDT by Steely Tom ([Seth Rich] == [the Democrats' John Dean])
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To: Pelham
The 1918 flu is suspected to have caused cytokine storms in tbe young and healthy. Healthy adults could develop flu symptoms in the morning and be dead by evening.

You know... I never even heard of the Spanish Flu till I saw Season 3 of Downton Abbey. LOL... I mean, maybe they told us in school, but it must not have made an impression on me. But boy, once I watched Downton Abbey I was like "Whoa! Spanish Flu BAD!" (Never heard of eclampsia till then either. That really was a great show. First 3 seasons, anyway.)

140 posted on 03/25/2020 7:56:54 PM PDT by A_perfect_lady (The greatest wealth is to live content with little. -Plato)
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To: Pelham; Steely Tom

Pelham is of course correct.

I’ll throw in my understanding of Cytokine Storm. This virus is so unique that we don’t have antibodies for anything that resembles it. Because of that, an especially in older people with mature immune systems, our body over reacts with all that it has to combat this virus. The medications that are being tried to combat the virus are immune system inhibitors that try to keep our bodies from killing us.

Pelham and I differ about where this came from. Forsaking all other evidence I just don’t believe a bat or ant eater naturally developed a virus that has so many unique features so spontaneously. This virus appears to have leaped ages of development in a single step. Maybe it has not leapt the development steps like an Amoeba to an Elephant but it is a little like a Rock Hyrax to Elephant in not a very long time and just completely skipping the Manatee and Dugong thing. How can it do that? I think somebody helped it along and it got away from them. We may never know. Many will survive to find out I hope and tell the tale.


279 posted on 03/25/2020 9:44:40 PM PDT by Sequoyah101 (We are governed by the consent of the governed and we are fools for allowing it.)
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