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To: mmichaels1970

I believe he has been testing the community at random to determine incidence, but not waiting to test the patients he treats.

As an experiment it stinks, although you might get some retrospective data from antibodies, if his records are reliable and if the patients cooperate.

A foolhardy community, a self-promoting doctor claiming credit for what many have already proposed and using scarce resources preferentially and possibly needlessly for “his people.”

I’m no anti-Semite, but I am becoming more anti-Haredim.


74 posted on 03/24/2020 2:13:00 PM PDT by heartwood (Someone has to play devil's advocate.)
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To: heartwood
As an experiment it stinks, although you might get some retrospective data from antibodies, if his records are reliable and if the patients cooperate.

I can't disagree with you there. At this point I'm piling whatever "successes" I see into a stack of "anecdotal evidence". I don't have a "failures" stack yet.

Other than people eating fish tablets, I'm still waiting to see somebody who claims they treated a COVID+ patient with these Rx, but saw the patient go markedly downhill afterwards. I'm not saying there aren't any, but I feel like the media would be eager to report them if there were.
83 posted on 03/24/2020 2:25:25 PM PDT by mmichaels1970
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To: heartwood

Harsh words.

He’s being more pro-active in addressing the problem than anyone else is, and he has good reason.

He said he’s tested over 200 people in his community and 65% of the tests came back positive. That essentially means most of his entire community of 35,000 has probably been exposed. Some of them are probably resistant and some remain unexposed, but not a large percentage. But that large a sample means that if someone comes in with symptoms, he probably has contracted the virus. So he treats them. Makes sense to me. (Note: I am assuming that he’s talking about testing a somewhat random sample here, and not just people who come in with symptoms and I’m assuming that because he should know that he can’t extrapolate tests on his sick patients to the entire community. I could be wrong though.)

He’s also added zinc to the protocol, which from what I’ve read is a good idea.

I think it’s fair to assume that well over half the people he’s treated, and probably closer to 90% of them, have CoVid-19. The fact (assuming he’s being truthful) that none of them have progressed to ventilators is nothing short of amazing, but he’s saying even more that that. Out of 500 patients treated he’s had zero hospitalizations! Even if he’s exaggerating by leaving out a dozen or so, that’s still a fantastic result.

In short, ignoring his story, or brushing him off without checking the facts is more than a bit silly. If there are big holes in his story, they’ll be obvious soon enough. If we had a functioning news media today, we’d know the facts by the evening news because they’d have been all over it and we’d know exactly how his patients were doing, with first hand reports, etc. (Yes, despite HIPPA). But we don’t, so we have to wait for the truth to come out in dribs and drabs, if ever.


85 posted on 03/24/2020 2:35:04 PM PDT by Norseman (Defund the Left....completely!)
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