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China, Italy, and Coronavirus: Geopolitics and Propaganda
The Diplomat ^ | March 20, 2020 | Theresa Fallon

Posted on 03/23/2020 2:14:19 AM PDT by nickcarraway

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1 posted on 03/23/2020 2:14:19 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

China covered up the outbreak and didn’t want foreign nations looking at the crisis up close


2 posted on 03/23/2020 2:20:10 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Everyone knows Hillary was corrupt, lied, destroyed documents, and influenced witnesses. Rat crime.)
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>>In a recent telephone call with Italy’s Prime Minister Giuseppe Conte, China’s Xi Jinping seized the moment and proposed launching a new “Health Silk Road,” to go together with the existing Belt and Road Initiative. Under this initiative, China would use the lessons learned in its successful fight against the virus and share them with its partners around the world. Since the pandemic is likely to last several more months worldwide and since a similar pandemic may happen again, many countries would be interested.

As quickly and globally and “locally” as this thing has spread, it is suicide not to share solutions to eradicate it globally.

If it is that big of a lethal threat the options are “kill it everywhere” or forever be seasonally dealing with it and mutated strains for all eternity.

Polio was eradicated hr but “thanks” to immigration is coming back


3 posted on 03/23/2020 2:27:06 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Everyone knows Hillary was corrupt, lied, destroyed documents, and influenced witnesses. Rat crime.)
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To: nickcarraway

Without actual transparency from either China or Italy, as it stands, Italy’s Covid 19 death toll is higher than China’s (a country with a pop over a billion people...go figure). Italy has issues, real issues.


4 posted on 03/23/2020 2:33:03 AM PDT by cranked
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To: nickcarraway

As the great grandson of one of Garibaldi’s Thousand Red Shirt Volunteers of Marsala. And the great grandson of another Italian Garibaldino who came to America after the Emancipation Proclamation, for the sole purpose of fighting to free blacks from slavery, and led a black regiment (39th U.S.C.T.) at the Battle of Petersburg (including the Battle of the Crater) and who was killed after the Battle of Ft. Fisher in 1865; and the grandson of one of the the Italian combat soldiers of the the Piave/Carso/Isonzo front lines of the Great War, including the Battles of the of Gorizia, Montegrappa, Caporetto, and Vittorio Veneto, who lost a brother in that war, and another grandfather who was an anti-Fascist Italian Partisan in WW2, who was marked for death along with his whole family by the Nazis; my ancestors would be turning over in their graves if they knew how easily Italy can be manipulated and sell out to the Red Chinese. The very country that caused their suffering and misery (as they have done to the entire world). They learn nothing. It makes me sick.


5 posted on 03/23/2020 2:40:07 AM PDT by Main Street (Stuck in traffic.)
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To: Main Street

eager to get along, go along or give up


6 posted on 03/23/2020 2:43:35 AM PDT by ronnie raygun (nicdip.com)
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To: nickcarraway

The Chinese PR on the Italy outbreak has been impeccable. They are raising their image.


7 posted on 03/23/2020 2:46:55 AM PDT by Cronos (Re-elect President Trump 2020!)
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the globalist writer, Fallon, has a very globalist twitter feed. she re-tweets the following from University of Melbourne, Australia’s Wyeth, who gets published in much of the FakeNewsMSM:

Tweet: Grant Wyeth, Research at the Asia Institute @unimelb. Contributing author @Diplomat_APAC. Very keen on India and Canada
The architects of the post-WWII order “understood that international cooperation is a way of creating strategic depth...Collaboration gives early warning of problems before they become exorbitantly dangerous and expensive to address” @KoriSchake
LINK The Atlantic
20 Mar 2020
reply:
Steve Smith: China ‘being generous’?! Like nationalizing the N95 mask factory of American company 3M so they could selfishly hoard them for themselves? China ‘generosity’ is a PR stunt and most people realize this outside those with a political motive.....
https://twitter.com/grantwyeth/status/1241133018279903232

this is the article Wyeth links to:

20 Mar: The Atlantic: The Damage That ‘America First’ Has Done
A self-interested strategy will not help the U.S. fight the coronavirus outbreak.
by Kori Schake
(Kori Schake is a contributing writer at The Atlantic and leads the foreign and defense policy program at the American Enterprise Institute)
While there have been reasons previously to question the approach, the coronavirus has posed the first real international crisis of Trump’s presidency. And judging by the administration’s actions, America First foreign policy in action isn’t restoring confidence in American leadership, and it isn’t serving the American people particularly well.
Rather than lead a cooperative international response, Trump has sought to blame the outbreak on China and then on Europe...
China’s leaders are gleefully running up their score in the great power competition by being generous where we are stingy...
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/03/america-first-is-making-the-pandemic-worse/608401/

more evidence how these globalist, pro-China types spread their memes:

Tweet: Grant Wyeth
There’s a possibility that the entire 2020 election in the U.S will need to be done by postal votes. Doable, but a huge task that will require planning to begin soon.
LINK NYT
21 Mar 2020


of course, he links to:

21 Mar: NYT: The 2020 Election Won’t Look Like Any We’ve Seen Before
Voting by mail is key to ensuring the integrity and accessibility of November’s vote.
By The Editorial Board
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/21/opinion/sunday/coronavirus-vote-mail.html?smid=tw-nytopinion&smtyp=cur


8 posted on 03/23/2020 3:04:26 AM PDT by MAGAthon
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Italy’s Covid 19 death toll is higher than China’s

LOL! If you really believe that, sheesh...

9 posted on 03/23/2020 3:10:59 AM PDT by montag813
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Apparently, reading is difficult, yeah? What exactly did I comment? Here, let me help you:

“Without actual transparency from either China or Italy.....”


10 posted on 03/23/2020 3:12:32 AM PDT by cranked
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To: nickcarraway

China has had a large presence in Italy since the late 1990’s. Much of Italy’s textile/leather industry is Chinese with close and continuous contact with China, including the city of Wuhan, the epicenter of caronavirus. There were daily non-stop flights there. It would have been a miracle if Italy had not suffered a Wuhan-type epidemic.

I notice there have been no published data about how many of the carinavirus deaths were Italian/Chinese. I’ll bet the answer is “many.”


11 posted on 03/23/2020 5:45:42 AM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said theoal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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I suspect that in November the quarantine period will be over and people will be going back to work; and the polls will be open.


12 posted on 03/23/2020 5:49:45 AM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said theoal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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To: Main Street

I agree:

With crises….I believe there is something in the mob mentality that makes subservience positively irresistible.

In unexpected and unavoidable crises, even totally literate and advanced populations are gripped with the idea that surrendering their autonomy and other hard-won and long held freedoms, will solve everything.

Otherwise rational and objective people, demonstrate some dormant weakness for a dangerous and authoritarian paternalism.

It reminds me of the quote: “Adversity introduces a man to himself.”

When the dust settles on THIS one (and it’s by no means singular in human history) some of these people will be ashamed of the ‘man’ they met.


13 posted on 03/23/2020 6:29:38 AM PDT by SMARTY ("Nobility is defined by the demands it makes on us - by obligations, not by rights".)
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To: MAGAthon

Yes the DNC want this so the unionized Post Office can ensure our votes are properly counted.


14 posted on 03/23/2020 8:14:46 AM PDT by JungleGoat77
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To: nickcarraway

This reads like a Central Committee press release from Beijing.


15 posted on 03/23/2020 8:34:58 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
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Milan... that’s interesting because, if memory serves me, it was Milan where al Qaeda was plotting to attack the US consulate after 9/11 using a WMD hidden in tomato cans.


16 posted on 03/23/2020 8:38:06 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
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Here is the incident...the plotters were going after the embassy in Rome and had connections to a terror cell in Milan:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2002/feb/25/september11.usa1


17 posted on 03/23/2020 8:45:07 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
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To: a fool in paradise
Reminds me of those weird cases where a mother poisons her child slowly so that she can get attention every time she takes the kid to the doctor. Would a country do that if it thought its opportunity to remodel the world was at stake?

One of the companies in question is ZTE, which donated 2,000 face masks to the city of L’Aquila in central Italy, where ZTE runs a joint 5G innovation and technology center with the local university. In addition, Huawei offered to set up a cloud computing network to connect Italian hospitals

18 posted on 03/23/2020 8:49:13 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
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>> Would a country do that if it thought its opportunity to remodel the world was at stake?

Stalin starved people as do other dictators in Africa.


19 posted on 03/23/2020 8:50:38 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Everyone knows Hillary was corrupt, lied, destroyed documents, and influenced witnesses. Rat crime.)
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One of the companies in question is ZTE, which donated 2,000 face masks to the city of L’Aquila in central Italy, where ZTE runs a joint 5G innovation and technology center with the local university. In addition, Huawei offered to set up a cloud computing network to connect Italian hospitals

Yrah, an Islamic terrorist group did the same during Katrina as part of ita PR.

20 posted on 03/23/2020 8:51:22 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
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