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Are Americans All-In for a Long Coronavirus War?
Townhall.com ^ | March 20, 2020 | Pat Buchanan

Posted on 03/20/2020 5:58:04 AM PDT by Kaslin

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To: calenel
The Kirby vacuum cleaner bags have HEPA and "micron level" all over the package.


61 posted on 03/20/2020 8:37:48 AM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: pburgh01
Totally agree with you. Also, knowing there is a treatment will end the whole thing. We have treatments for the flu, that's why we can go about our lives during flu season. Hard to keep healthy people holed up for a long period of time.
62 posted on 03/20/2020 8:50:24 AM PDT by dandiegirl (BOBBY)
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To: z3n

I had my suspicions about member of government as well as the MSM being bought off before, but I am now much more convinced that it’s true. There is absolutely no reason to apologize for China unless you are in their pocket.
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They’re all in it for profit. Research from 2005 shows it is KNOWN how to prevent the spread of this(blocks the ACE-2 receptor access). The problem? The drugs are old, cheap, and not a huge, continuous profit for the medical industry.

“In addition to the well-known functions of chloroquine such as elevations of endosomal pH, the drug appears to interfere with terminal glycosylation of the cellular receptor, angiotensin-converting enzyme 2. This may negatively influence the virus-receptor binding and abrogate the infection, with further ramifications by the elevation of vesicular pH, resulting in the inhibition of infection and spread of SARS CoV at clinically admissible concentrations.”
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16115318

Seems DJT learned of this, mentioned it, and now the “cat” is out of the bag. It CAN be legally given OFF LABEL by prescription based on over a decade of research. I hope DJT kicked someone’s backside for not telling him/us about this earlier.

Mix the hyrdroxy version with Z-Pak(azithromycin) and it works on this CCP-19 virus. France has done a trial with much success(CURE RATE).
https://www.mediterranee-infection.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/Hydroxychloroquine_final_DOI_IJAA.pdf


63 posted on 03/20/2020 8:53:28 AM PDT by JCL3 (As Richard Feynman might have said, this is reality taking precedence over public relations.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

“Or is it better to live pretty normally, get some herd immunity, and accept the fact that some people die of disease. That’s been true throughout history. It’s only very recently that people have decided that it is unacceptable to experience disease like that.”

You’re not going to be living pretty normally, if everyone goes back to work, or partying or congregating in crowds. Everytime you hear somebody coughing, you run away, and as you hear of coworkers being hospitalized in a tent because there aren’t enough beds, and morgue being overwhelmed with dead bodies... That’s neither pretty nor normal.

There’s no question these are difficult choices. I think for the time being, we’re doing the right thing. We’re gaining some time to see what happens, while not causing even more panic. It’s a learn as you go process.


64 posted on 03/20/2020 9:12:58 AM PDT by aquila48 (Do not let them make you care!)
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To: aquila48
We’re gaining some time to see what happens, while not causing even more panic. It’s a learn as you go process.

And I am OK with that. I am complying. I am not putting anyone at risk. I can do that for some amount of time.

But we are going to need some real numbers indicating that our current approach is working, or not. 2-3 weeks. We should know. Is the result we're getting worth the price we're paying? Because we're killing a very vibrant economy. Are we getting what we're paying for?

65 posted on 03/20/2020 9:17:34 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (If White Privilege is real, why did Elizabeth Warren lie about being an Indian?)
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To: The Pack Knight

Amen! I’m starting to see a few of my FB friends posting nice sounding memes and stuff about obeying government and setting a good Christian example.
My first thought was how glad I am that our nations founders didn’t stick with that!


66 posted on 03/20/2020 9:29:55 AM PDT by vpintheak (Leftists are full of "Love, peace" and bovine squeeze.)
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To: brownsfan

I agree 100%!


67 posted on 03/20/2020 9:33:42 AM PDT by vpintheak (Leftists are full of "Love, peace" and bovine squeeze.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

“But we are going to need some real numbers indicating that our current approach is working, or not. 2-3 weeks.”

Well that’s what you do in situation like this. You give it your best shot given your understanding of things and as time passes you learn if what you’re doing is working and adjust accordingly. The most important thing is to gain time and not descend in total chaos. So what we’re doing is prudent for the time being. We’ll see what happens in a few weeks, and adjust. By gaining time we’re giving the developers of vaccine and antibodies a chance to make progress, also we’re not overwhelming our medical system like it’s happening in North Italy.

“Is the result we’re getting worth the price we’re paying? Because we’re killing a very vibrant economy. Are we getting what we’re paying for?”

We don’t know any of that now. We’re in Terra Incognita - we may know when this is over, and then it won’t matter. It’ll all be water under the bridge. The best we can hope for is learning some lessons for future posterity.


68 posted on 03/20/2020 10:23:59 AM PDT by aquila48 (Do not let them make you care!)
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RE:”I’ve noticed the 15 days is always 15 days, every day. LOL. What was the first day again? I’ve been inside since Sat, only walking my dog. No shopping, no driving.”

Not that bad yet here in Maryland but PA and CA...

The reason why they lie and tell us 15 days is because if they said 30 or 60 days many wouldn't comply

Closing businesses is one thing, forcing most individuals to self isolate is near impossible

CA and PA are expecting voluntary compliance

69 posted on 03/20/2020 10:26:04 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Elect tough guy Joe Biden : Joe wrote the bill that banned the AR-14s)
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RE:”I’ve noticed the 15 days is always 15 days, every day. LOL. What was the first day again? I’ve been inside since Sat, only walking my dog. No shopping, no driving.”

The SHTF day for my area (shoppers going postal) was Friday the 13th. lol

70 posted on 03/20/2020 10:28:30 AM PDT by redcatcherb412
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To: sickoflibs

Yes at every press conference every morning the government says “just 15 more days!” Ha ha.


71 posted on 03/20/2020 10:49:35 AM PDT by olivia3boys
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To: Kaslin

Asking, “questions” instead of saying, “we can do this”, encouragingly, is beneath Pat...this is an unneeded edit. Pat is getting wimpy. Nothingburger edit. He. Would have at least agreed or disagreed with his own premise...That being this may last a long time...I disagree. The Left wants it to last, so they can take over a failed state.


72 posted on 03/20/2020 1:50:05 PM PDT by CincyRichieRich (It's the Wuhon Corona virus, not the U.S. coroner virus. Dem panic <> pandemic.)
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To: sickoflibs

What??

Our 15 days is almost over!
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Exactly!!!


73 posted on 03/20/2020 1:51:05 PM PDT by CincyRichieRich (It's the Wuhon Corona virus, not the U.S. coroner virus. Dem panic <> pandemic.)
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To: calenel

I looked for the source, but so far cannot find it.

This interesting article in Asia Times might interest you. It should give you some hints about how the numbers are so low.

Why are Korea’s Covid-19 death rates so low?

https://asiatimes.com/2020/03/why-are-koreas-covid-19-death-rates-so-low/

If I can find the discussion that said they were recording false positives because of a similar virus being detected, I will send you a link.


74 posted on 03/20/2020 2:29:18 PM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: calenel

This was just posted to FR.

Coronavirus scare the hoax of the century
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMPjDapgQbg

FR Comments: https://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3826581/posts

I don’t know the man in the video, but he has some good observations. Along with some conspiracy stuff.


75 posted on 03/20/2020 2:45:22 PM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: Texas Fossil

If the case count is inflated due to false positives, that just says that the virus is more lethal than thought - because the death count certainly is not. So containment is still the solution.


76 posted on 03/20/2020 3:24:49 PM PDT by calenel (Don't panic. Prepare and be vigilant.)
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To: calenel

In my opinion, no source of data about this is accurate. Even the best (like John’s Hopkins) are relying on the honesty of other nations like China and Iran??

So, what is the agenda. It does not appear to me that this virus is the threat the biological experts say it is. But we have allowed them to use this to literally destroy the economic base of the nation. I expect for it to be resolved and we will recover. But that is not the aim of our “enemies” (foreign and domestic).

The threat is real and it is not primarily the virus. It is those who seek to destroy the USA and its stabilizing influence in the world.

Welcome to the “Brave New World” /sar


77 posted on 03/20/2020 7:29:20 PM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: pburgh01

Mr. GG2 and I were discussing this last night. People are already sick of this quarantine. They want togo out to dinner on Friday night or the local tavern, movie whatever. They don’t want to have to hunt down TP. They want to goback to work and the kids in school.


78 posted on 03/23/2020 7:08:17 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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