Posted on 03/18/2020 12:54:54 PM PDT by bitt
Earlier today, I posted several charts showing coronavirus fatalities in various countries in several formats. Many think that per capita mortality rates are the most relevant metric; our friend Brian Sullivan, who runs a highly sophisticated biomedical company, emailed us today with these comments:
Another worthwhile analysis would consider the common sense observation that the US, South Korea, and Europe had their first cases at roughly the same time. Therefore, I think it is informative to compare the per capita number of cases and deaths in Europe and South Korea to those in the US. I created the table below to calculate the per capita case and death rate in each country as of March 17th as reported by the Worldometers website.
I converted Brians table, as it relates to mortality, into a simple bar chart that shows deaths per million of population; click to enlarge:
(Excerpt) Read more at powerlineblog.com ...
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I don’t see the bat eating scum on he list
TY TY TY! I’ve been looking for this chart all day, lamenting my inability to even begin to convert the others’ data to this one!
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Why isn’t Russia reporting?
Not all of it came from China. The Italian and American cases are of unknown origin.
Its like it came virtually out of nowhere.
None of the victims have ever been in China, whether rural Italians or American seniors in a nursing home.
Travel bans havent contained its spread, merely slowed it down.
Rich Russians love to shop in Italy. Surprising there is no large outbreak in Moscow.
Thanks!
Russia has instituted tough restrictions since it broke last year. Theyve closed their vast border with China.
Not all of it came from China. The Italian and American cases are of unknown origin.
Its like it came virtually out of nowhere.
None of the victims have ever been in China, whether rural Italians or American seniors in a nursing home.
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Do you have a source for that??
N Italy has a large Chinese population, in Milan garment area. Many went to China for Lunar NY and then returned. No telling how many Italians had been to China, as well.
Weve read, in these threads, that WA cases cane from one guy from China, NY cases came from Iran and San Diego are (?) from Europe.
Several articles posted about where its come from.
Community spread is happening from those being infected by already infected people.
No telling how much of this was released/spread, before we knew about it and/or put travel bans in place.
Obviously, the morbidity factor is a concern. I’m mildly immuno-suppressed due to being in remission from Leukemia for 2 1/2 years.
But what has me most concerned is whether we can minimize the number of new cases enough so that it doesn’t crash our medical system. IIRC, we’re seeing that in Italy now. Yes, I understand that there are other factors at play in Italy that are causing stress on their medical system.
But given that we still don’t know everything about this disease (for example, can it or will it make inroads into the under 50 age bracket, etc), I wonder sometimes if closing restaurants, movie theatres, etc isn’t the worst idea? If CV (and I know there’s not guarantee that it will) makes inroads in the above described age bracket, it will cause additional stress to our medical system.
And while I get it that many millennial snots are not taking this too seriously, they may find themselves on the losing end of that bet. But then again, so will the rest of us. About the only decent option we have is to try to minimize contact and self-quarantine.
Russians eat a lot of onions- no one can get close enough to give them the virus.
If you know of any rural Italian 80 year olds and bed ridden American seniors vacationing in China, kindly let us know.
None of these people have been in contact with foreign travelers, yet they still got infected.
Its not always a one on one simple transmission thing, because if it was, stopping it would be a lot easier.
Low score wins! C’mon folks. We got this!
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Or they aren’t reporting anything.
Look at South Korea for worse case scenario when comparing to the United States. They already have this thing in the rear view mirror and they done it without any cures (which shortens contagious time) or vaccine.
We are starting to get a handle on cures (shortening contagious time) and I think a vaccine is closer than anyone suspects. Not anywhere near 18 months.
China has an Humanitarian clause and are able to push vaccines out almost immediately. They are in human testing on a vaccine that is near identical to the one we are using in human trails. They actually might release it to the masses next month. What happens if it works with little side affects?
I don’t think the US will wait long to give it to our most vulnerable. I know the argument against, but can you imagine the pressure if the rest of the world starts using it?
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