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These Places Could Run Out Of Hospital Beds Soon
nytimes.com ^ | March 17, 2020

Posted on 03/18/2020 1:46:18 AM PDT by Helicondelta

A new Harvard analysis shows that many parts of the United States will have far too few hospital beds if the new coronavirus continues to spread widely and if nothing is done to expand capacity.

In 40 percent of markets around the country, hospitals would not be able to make enough room for all the patients who became ill with Covid-19, even if they could empty their beds of other patients. That statistic assumes that 40 percent of adults become infected with the virus over 12 months, a scenario described as “moderate” by the team behind the calculations.

Yet the Harvard estimates suggest that the coronavirus outbreak could require significantly more resources than that. In hard-hit Italy, hospitals have been rationing care for older patients who are severely ill with the virus.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: communityspread; coronavirus; covid19; wuhansarscov2
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1 posted on 03/18/2020 1:46:18 AM PDT by Helicondelta
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In ‘simple-math’, if you live in a urban zone of 300,000 people....there’s probably three-to-five hospitals in that area and maybe 4,000 beds (total).

So imagine having a small group of 3,000 folks a week infected, and 6-percent (that’s the general number for ultra-extreme cases) of them requiring hospitalization, so you need 180 beds. It’s not a problem to fill that order.

Four weeks into this, your weekly count is now up to 10,000 (meaning you need 600 beds).

By the 9nd week of this, you have 40,000 a week on the new infected list, and need 2,400 beds.

You can figure 14 to 20 days for each admitted person for the extra care. So your bed situation won’t be able to handle the infection rate for the serious folks and you will start turning away folks around the 10th week of this (if the infection rate isn’t cornered or lessened). Death rates then increase.


2 posted on 03/18/2020 2:00:49 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: Helicondelta

This is utter nonsense.

It’s based on unrealistic percentages of infected.


3 posted on 03/18/2020 2:01:01 AM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: ifinnegan

Last I read 80% of people infected end up with mild symptoms that don’t require any hospital treatment, just go hone and rest. They still have no idea how many have the ChiComVirus and many have already recovered because they were never tested.


4 posted on 03/18/2020 2:12:29 AM PDT by matt04
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according to these people, we need 300,000,000 hospital beds.


5 posted on 03/18/2020 2:15:11 AM PDT by newnhdad (Our new motto: USA, it was fun while it lasted.)
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To: Helicondelta

How many blue people an hour can your local hospital stand?


6 posted on 03/18/2020 2:16:16 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: matt04
Yep, most people will get infected and never know about it:


7 posted on 03/18/2020 2:16:50 AM PDT by Helicondelta (Deplorable)
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To: pepsionice

Folks will get 5 days and get kicked out. But otherwise reasonable numbers.


8 posted on 03/18/2020 2:18:45 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: pepsionice

Do it again but this time, at 9 weeks 40,000 per week in 300,000 i don’t think is possible. It would add up to more than the population. Somewhere around week 4 things should start to level off a bit as the virus has trouble finding virgin hosts. Then what do the numbers look like?

At the point where you need 180 beds perhaps what you mean is ventilators because a bed to die in ain’t real helpful.


9 posted on 03/18/2020 2:24:56 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: Helicondelta

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10 posted on 03/18/2020 2:28:39 AM PDT by sauropod (Fear can turn a human into an animal.)
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To: newnhdad

Not quite. Cocktail napkin numbers? If only 20% of 330 million get it that’s roughly 60 million people. 1 % of that is 60,000. Can this country come up with an additional 30,000 ventilators in the next month? When the entire world will need ventilators? Can we make medical students bag 30,000 people for the next month?


11 posted on 03/18/2020 2:30:15 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: Helicondelta

Here in North Georgia WellStar Health System has 11 hospitals with 2,775 licensed beds as of 2017 and, 300+ medical office locations to date. There are many other hospital in the metro Atlanta area stand alone or affiliated with other healthcare consortiums. I’ve been able to get CT scans and MRIs at a moments notice at anytime I show up to one of 21 imaging centers. I am not very worried about the medical care in my neck of the woods.


12 posted on 03/18/2020 2:38:51 AM PDT by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken)
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To: wastoute

You may have heard that CPAP machines have been drafted into service in some stressed places.


13 posted on 03/18/2020 2:41:28 AM PDT by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken)
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To: pepsionice
their already talking on using chlorquine/remisdiver for shortening the virus....and we will have a vax soon.....

this is just more panic and crisis.....

14 posted on 03/18/2020 2:42:30 AM PDT by cherry
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To: wastoute

we will have to triage if we must.....


15 posted on 03/18/2020 2:45:05 AM PDT by cherry
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To: Helicondelta

My neighbor is 69, was put in the hospital by her son as a precaution, and tested positive for Kung Flu yesterday. But her symptoms were not serious and they sent her home to be isolated there.


16 posted on 03/18/2020 2:46:28 AM PDT by montag813
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To: Helicondelta

Not saying it is necessarily wrong given the rarity of this event-we hope-but hasn’t recent theory and policy been fewer beds, less inpatient more outpatient?


17 posted on 03/18/2020 2:48:19 AM PDT by John W (Trump/Pence 2020)
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To: Helicondelta

If the headline has the word could in it, it’s bullshit.


18 posted on 03/18/2020 2:50:53 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham ("God is a spirit, and man His means of walking on the earth.")
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To: pepsionice

You’re right. It’s “simple” math. Bereft of anything but numbers.


19 posted on 03/18/2020 2:53:17 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham ("God is a spirit, and man His means of walking on the earth.")
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To: cherry

Oh I agree that for 90-to-95 percent of people...it’s just a mild to harsh flu situation. Those with asthma, COPD or frail health? Those are the only ones requiring real hospital care. I see it being a harsh reality for those over 70, and a fair number of these folks passing on before the vaccine arrives.


20 posted on 03/18/2020 2:53:41 AM PDT by pepsionice
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