Posted on 03/17/2020 6:53:58 PM PDT by Hojczyk
United States falls short of justifying the draconian measures that are now being implemented. As of two days ago, 39 states have declared states of emergency, and they have been joined at the federal level with President Trump’s recent declaration to the same effect. These declarations are meant to endow governments with the power to impose quarantines and travel bans, close schools, restrict public gatherings, shut down major sporting events, stop public meetings, and close restaurants and bars. Private institutions are imposing similar restrictions. The one-two punch of public and private restrictions has caused a huge jolt to the economy.
The irony here is that even though self-help measures like avoiding crowded spaces make abundant sense, the massive public controls do not. In light of the available raw data, public officials have gone overboard. To begin with, the word pandemic should not be lightly used. Recall that the Spanish influenza pandemic, fully worthy of the name, resulted in perhaps as many as a half-billion infections and between 50 and 100 million deaths, world-wide, of which some 675,000 were Americans, many coming back from Europe in the aftermath of the First World War. The World Health Organization recently declared coronavirus a pandemic at a time when the death count was at 4,000, presently being just over 6,500. It will surely rise no matter what precautions are
By way of comparison, the toll from the flu in the United States since October ran as follows: between 36 to 51 million infections, between 370 thousand to 670 thousand flu hospitalizations, and between 22 thousand to 55 thousand flu deaths. That works out to between roughly between 230,000 to 320,000 new infections per day, and between 140 to 350 deaths per day for an overall mortality rate of between 0.044 percent to 0.152 percent.
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This person doesn’t know about exponential growth?
That’s going to bring out the vitreol, hope you are ready!!
Probably the best contrarian analysis produced thus far.
My wife is a nurse and has been for 35 years. Every time I ask a dr about the coronavirus, the first thing I get is a chuckle. Its 90% bs
It’s all about the body count.
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90% of all deaths are from age 60 and older.
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30,000 Americans die every year from the flu that you can get a vaccine for. Where’s the outcry? Where’s the panic over that?
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Most of the COVID19 deaths are not actually from COVID19. COVID 19 causes lung tissue to fall to the bottom of the lungs where pneumonia kicks in and kills the patient.
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That’s the same pneumonia that everyone can go get an innoculation for.........right now.
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Folks, get your oars in the water. Why are you filling the garage with toilet paper instead of getting vaccinated????????
[[[My wife is a nurse and has been for 35 years.]]]
Thank God every morning you wake up next to her.
Now ya got me on a rant.
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For all the inconsiderate hoarders buying up a lifetime supply of toilet paper and ........ dust masks.
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You morons.........many people such as dry wallers, welders, grinders, metal fabricators, and painters need those masks to do their jobs everyday.
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You’ve scooped up all the masks and those people that wear them for work can’t get them because of you. They either have to work illegally and breathe dust and paint in, or don’t work and feed their families.
bkmk
The fatality rate is fairly low. Exponential growth leads to more deaths more quickly, but exponential growth doesn't necessarily lead to more total deaths.
The downside of the controls they're putting in place is that they may slow the economy to the point where we get Great Depression levels of unemployment. Is that worth it to give somebody in their 80's another year of life? And to prevent somebody with a compromised immune system from dying from the Corona-virus this year, just so they can die from the flu or something else next year?
I've experienced enough deaths in people close to me to know that EVERY death is a sad occasion. The death of some homeless person with no family no less than any other. But we're ALL going to do it at some point. And when we die, people that know us will experience the sadness. And then life moves on.
The idea of only the people most at risk doing what they can to shield themselves from exposure to what might kill them makes sense to me. A lot more than the idea of shutting down half the economy to try to prevent the other 95% of the people from potentially being exposed to something that won't affect them any worse than a case of the flu.
That’s like a buddy of mine. Every morning he wakes up by the crack of Dawn. ( that’s his wifes name
“That’s the same pneumonia that everyone can go get an innoculation for.........right now.
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Folks, get your oars in the water. Why are you filling the garage with toilet paper instead of getting vaccinated????????”
No, it isn’t the same pneumonia.
The pneumonia vaccine currently available is in no way protective against this new virus.
Else no one in any senior care facility would have died. That’s a pre-req to get into any of them in my state and i’m sure it’s likely that way in all states. All seniors in there have to be vaxd against pneumonia, flu, shingles and IIRC one more thing to be admitted.
So no, the pneumonia vax doesn’t do squat against this thing.
The pneumonia vax is for bacterial pneumonia. I know for a fact that my State (WA) doesn’t require any vaxes for retirement home or rehabilitation patients. That is kind of interesting since it’s Washington.
That IS interesting.
It’s mandated for my state before you can be in a senior center.
but yeah, new pneumonia is the viral kind. the scary kind.
The staff strongly advocates various vaccinations to patients but the state doesn’t require them.
Maybe next time they'll know enough to always have a six month supply on hand instead of only buying enough to get them through the next week. I certainly would if my livelihood or health depended on it.
Read my post.
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COVID19 often causes common pneumonia to kick in and kill.
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We can all get vaccinated for the 8 most common pneumonias right now. That would reduce the COVID19 death rate (currently about 1%) about 80%.
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When COVID19 kills it does so by causing massive scar tissue in he lungs so they don’t work. Also by shock to the body that causes other organs to shut down. But that only occurs about 20% of the deaths.
Most of the workers that use dust masks are used to easy access in the stores.
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They were caught by surprise, agreed.
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That doesn’t begin to excuse the behaviour of the hoarders. They ought to be ashamed of themselves and return the masks. They don’t keep you from getting sick anyway.
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