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Restaurants, Bars In 5 PA Counties Ordered Closed By Governor
The Patch ^ | March 15, 2029 | Kara Seymour, Patch Staff

Posted on 03/15/2020 8:13:08 PM PDT by ConservativeInPA

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To: ConservativeInPA

Coronavirus in Western Pa.: 4 cases in Allegheny County, 1 in Washington County

https://www.wtae.com/article/coronavirus-cases-pittsburgh-western-pennsylvania/31552064

Though state health website said 4 earlier today, now says 3...


21 posted on 03/15/2020 9:11:19 PM PDT by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: goodolemr

Less than a month.

All of their perishable foods will rot in 14 days. They still have to pay for it.

Additionally, they will be nearly as stigmatized as cruise ships when they reopen; and their foot traffic will be near zero.


22 posted on 03/15/2020 9:11:35 PM PDT by Reagan80 ("In this current crisis, government is not the solution to our problems, government IS the problem")
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To: Titus-Maximus

In two weeks all we’ll be talking about is our vaporized economy.....


23 posted on 03/15/2020 9:17:37 PM PDT by RedMominBlueState
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To: ConservativeInPA

The bars and restaurants should defy this phony baloney ‘order’.


24 posted on 03/15/2020 10:50:15 PM PDT by jerod (Nazi's were essentially Socialist in Hugo Boss uniforms... Get over it!)
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To: ConservativeInPA

Now Is Not The Time to Forcibly Close Restaurants – There are Interim Alternatives…

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Right now, today, the retail food supply-chain is trying to recover from previous panic buying. Across the nation grocery stores are wiped out. Warehouses are emptying trying to replenish the stores. The upstream suppliers are trying to resupply the warehouses.

Supermarkets are closing early and opening late while trying to stem panic and fulfill customer demand.  Now is exactly the wrong time to limit food choices and push more people into those retail food stores.

No advance notice. No time to prepare or plan… just an immediate order.

Imagine what will happen tomorrow morning in Ohio and Illinois at grocery stores.

Notice these orders from short-sighted governors are in effect almost immediately. Meaning no-one has had the time to prepare for this type of a disruption in the total food supply chain.

These governors do not have any experience, policy framework, or previously established state-wide systems (having been tested through experience) for a process of rapid food distribution as a result of a state emergency. They are flying by the seat of their pants, and taking advice from the wrong people with the wrong priorities and the wrong frame-of-reference.

A government cannot just shut down 30 to 50 percent of the way civil society feeds themselves, without planning and advanced preparation for an alternative. Those who ARE the alternative, the retail food grocers, need time to prepare themselves (and their entire logistical system) for the incredible impact.  Without preparation this is a man-made crisis about to get a lot worse.

Some states have emergency food distribution and contingency plans. Those states are hurricane prone states; and those states have experienced the intense demand on the food distribution system when restaurants are closed and people in society need to eat.

Those states have, by necessity, developed massive logistical systems to deal with the food needs of their citizens. These current short-sighted states are not those prepared states.

Any governor who shuts down their restaurant industry without a civil contingency plan is being incredibly, catastrophically, reckless. It really is a terribly dangerous decision.

Any policy that drives more demand, when demand is already outpacing supply, is a bad policy. This is the food supply chain we are talking about. This is not arbitrary stuff being discussed. This supply chain is critical.

People freak out about access to food.

For the past 20 to 30 years there have been exhaustive studies on the growth of the restaurant sector.  It has been well documented that as the pace of society increased, as efficiencies and productivity increased; and as less of the population learned how to cook and prepare meals; approximately 30% of retail food growth dropped.

Multiply the impact of lower food shopping over all those years.  More Americans eat at restaurants now.  Depending on the area, there are estimates that fifty percent of all food consumed is from “dining out” or “food consumed outside the home.”

Most of the current panic shopping is because people are preparing by buying weeks worth of food products.  Closing restaurants will only magnify that panic shopping.

If state officials are going to make these decisions, they need to coordinate closely with the retail grocers and food outlets in their states. The decision to shut down restaurants must be very closely coordinated and timed with a civil society need for alternatives.  Those providing the alternatives need time… not much time…. but they need time.

This is exactly the wrong time to shut restaurants and put additional pressure on a national food supply chain that is trying to meet overwhelming demand.

Either these officials are intentionally trying to create civil unrest, or they are just inexperienced politicians without the ability to think through the logical conclusions to their mandated orders.  I’m not sure which it is.  However, regardless of intent or stupidity, these types of knee-jerk decisions will harm more people than the virus itself.

Drive-thru and curbside services will not work.  Yes, McDonalds and similar do and can provide drive-thru services… but they are not designed for exclusive “drive-thru” services.  Approximately eight percent of all daily fast-food comes from McDonalds imagine a line of cars a mile long for a drive-thru hamburger.   Then imagine that car, after waiting four hours in that line, orders a month’s worth of hamburgers….  and then that supply chain collapses….  See, it ain’t that simple.

These decisions create the snow-ball effect…

Most restaurants are not not set-up for immediate delivery…. Yes, all of these challenges can and will be overcome; restaurants will limit their curbside products, fast food will put a limit on orders, kitchens will modify to adjust to the work-flow, etc.  However, it takes a time to prepare for these necessary shifts and changes.

A more prudent step would be for state officials to provide mitigation directives, simple and prudent changes, during a phase that allows restaurants to adapt:

These types of dining out measures can be prudent and allow for the mitigation of the virus without spreading wide-scale panic that only worsens the issues for alternative options.

Arbitrarily shutting down restaurants, effective immediately, is not a good idea and will only increase the panic and anxiety…. Then again, maybe that’s the goal.


I was just at the Target in Boca Park in Las Vegas and the food shelves are empty.

There was plenty of produce, cereal, and snack foods available but most essential items were out of stock. pic.twitter.com/NYcL7grrw0

  — Courtney Holland 🇺🇸 (@hollandcourtney) March 15, 2020


 

 

25 posted on 03/15/2020 11:00:24 PM PDT by Bratch (“If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.)
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“Imagine what will happen tomorrow morning in Ohio and Illinois at grocery stores.”

And Washington state. I texted all my kids, grandma, and neighbors. I ran out to get a few items for grandma and ourselves, mostly fresh vegetables. The bread aisle was pretty bare. Lots of milk and eggs. Lots of veggies.

I’m guessing the bread aisle will be pretty full in the morning - for a little while. TP was all out. They had Kleenix, but we have plenty of that I think.


26 posted on 03/15/2020 11:28:12 PM PDT by 21twelve (Ever Vigilant. Never Fearful.)
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To: ConservativeInPA

Knock three times on the door and you get in and a meal. Speakeasy.


27 posted on 03/15/2020 11:36:00 PM PDT by kvanbrunt2 (spooks won on day 76)
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To: Alberta's Child

correct!


28 posted on 03/16/2020 3:29:45 AM PDT by Tallguy (Facts be d@mned! The narrative must be protected at all costs!))
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To: Leaning Right

“You would think so. But why then is Philadelphia not included in the governor’s order?”

Been wondering that myself.


29 posted on 03/16/2020 3:31:15 AM PDT by Tallguy (Facts be d@mned! The narrative must be protected at all costs!))
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To: ConservativeInPA
Wolf is a P.O.S. - strange that Philly is not an issue.

The gubmint can kiss my *ss.

30 posted on 03/16/2020 6:59:18 AM PDT by NativeSon ( What Would Virginia Do? #WWVD)
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To: Tallguy; 2banana; Antoninus; big truck; brityank; bt-99; ConorMacNessa; cowboyusa; Dems_R_Losers; ..
>>> But why then is Philadelphia not included in the governor’s order? <<<

*** Philly Metro Ping ***

* The progressive mayor is anti-science.
* Philly needs every dime of revenue.
* Elite liberals can't go without fancy dining.
31 posted on 03/16/2020 7:11:10 AM PDT by Kid Shelleen (Beat your plowshares into swords. Let the weak say I am strong)
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To: ConservativeInPA

The blind pig will soon be in business again.


32 posted on 03/16/2020 8:45:35 AM PDT by sergeantdave (Teach a man to fish and he'll steal your gear and sell it)
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To: ConservativeInPA

It is the entire State now.

https://www.wnep.com/article/news/health/coronavirus/governor-announces-new-statewide-measures-to-battle-coronavirus/523-d22ac06d-87fa-4cbd-acba-e71aa7842181


33 posted on 03/16/2020 3:07:15 PM PDT by Enlightened1
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To: Enlightened1

Here is a quote,

“Similar restrictions were put in place over the weekend in the Philadelphia area and are now in effect for the whole state.”


34 posted on 03/16/2020 3:08:13 PM PDT by Enlightened1
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To: Kid Shelleen

The infamous Penn Relays were cancelled for the first time in 125 years.


35 posted on 03/16/2020 5:24:58 PM PDT by Phillyred
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To: Alberta's Child

Bucks, Chester, Delaware, and Montgomery are the suburban counties surrounding Philadelphia.


36 posted on 03/16/2020 5:30:05 PM PDT by SauronOfMordor (A Leftist can't enjoy life unless they are controlling, hurting, or destroying others)
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