Posted on 03/15/2020 12:11:53 PM PDT by yesthatjallen
President Trump said Sunday that he is “strongly considering” a full pardon for his former national security adviser Michael Flynn.
“So now it is reported that, after destroying his life & the life of his wonderful family (and many others also), the FBI, working in conjunction with the Justice Department, has ‘lost’ the records of General Michael Flynn,” he tweeted.
“How convenient. I am strongly considering a Full Pardon!” he added.
Flynn pleaded guilty in December 2017 for lying to the FBI about his communications with the Russian ambassador.
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He has to be found guilty. Didn’t he retract his plea..?
Nixon was pardoned without a trial, without even being charged.
And the big thing was that by accepting the pardon it was “an admittance of guilt.”
He is the exception that proves the rule.
YEAH; and Hannity is full of sh!t as a Christmas goose, about this and many other things.
I worked in a Bureaucracy for 30 years and I can tell you with 100% certainty, every rotten little sh!tstain from the head turd down to the newest hired janitor knows what is going on in their little kingdom.
I was cut out of the system in my first 18 months because I wouldn’t play their little power and bribery games.
The only reason I got promoted was because my Director was an honest man with less than a year to go to retirement and he wanted somebody to kick ass and fire the corrupt people in his division.
He actually asked me if I could do that; I told him after 5 years in the Corps and 3 of those as an NCO, not only could I do it, but it would be my pleasure.
I never got another promotion after my original boss retired, but in my first 2 years in my new position I managed to fire 31 lame ass wastes of oxygen and meat.
I fired them for everything from theft, sabotaging construction, drinking on the job, to soliciting acts of prostitution.
My answer to them when they begged for mercy was, NO I DON’T CARE ABOUT YOUR WIFE, YOUR KIDS, or YOUR MORTGAGE.
YOU SHOULD HAVE THOUGHT ABOUT THAT BEFORE YOU PUT YOURSELF IN THIS POSITION!
Surely you jest.
Was "Barr" "incompetent" @ Waco?
Was "Barr" "incompetent" @ Ruby Ridge?
Barr is doing what all insider's do, PROTECT, PROTECT, and when all else fail's, scream bloody murder while Protecting the beast.
He will recover damages that will more than offset his losses.
Barr is finished. For Trump to rely on this fake is a real mistake.
Pardoning Michael Flynn is the right thing to do.
Barr was under Walker Bush in those years. Now he’s under Trump’s watch. He can’t play ‘protect’ games now. He has to perform and he’s not performing.
Let’s be clear on terms.
Barr was violating rights at Ruby Ridge and WACO (Reno came in to kill and maim at WACO later) but that was Ok under Herbert Walker.
But with Trump he had a chance to nail those guilty of treason and he hasn’t done anything. On that we agree. But Trump will not fire his sorry butt for ‘protecting’ the aholes in DOJ/FBI, he will fire him for incompetence which is what was described above.
When the order and history to fire him are written, it will not be that he ‘protected’ anything, it will be that he was incompetent. He will have to live with the history that he was a desultory AG, an ineffective, incompetent federal bureaucrat that accomplished nothing major in terms of the coup that was attempted and is still in works.
He may become Anti-Trump as a result. But it won’t matter. When Trump wins reelection, Barr will be pushed ever closer to the old folks home.
But now more than ever is needed an AG that will actually land the traitors in prison with history making full air public viewing of what they did and why they deserve the punishment handed down to them.
You remind me of the WWII Vet generation when they occupied positions in the federal workforce. With them it was always country first and to hell with retirements and perks, service to country was first priority.
The DC Metro area was literally a swamp in history and today it is a swamp of self-serving unpatriotic aholes that only think of themselves.
As has been said countless times over and over again, half the federal force (non-military) could be told to clear out their desks tomorrow and Americans everywhere would not even know it happened, would not notice a but of difference.
No pardon unless as a last resort. A pardon implies guilt.
Based on what’s now obvious, Barr should drop the charges. Failing to do so would mean he’s as ethically challenged as mueler.
Durham is to us, as Lucy’s football is to Charlie Brown.
Never could figure out why most folks go into PUBLIC SERVICE just for the perks and the bucks; it’s a good job and if you do it honestly and right, the satisfaction should be enough.
Like I said, never did get promoted further up the line; but when I retired even the folks who out ranked me and hated my guts had to admit my department ran efficiently and without the deficiencies and losses other departments had to suffer with.
Went back for a visit a couple of times and most of my guys were pleased to see me, the people at the remote sites (and some of my own people) were begging me to come back and unscrew what my replacement was doing.
He was hired by my last boss (who preferred yes men) rather than someone who would do the job without kissing ass.
Fortunately for my old hands, he was fired 2 years after I retired, the new Director was also fired.
I was asked to come back and do the professional qualifications evaluations for a new Director and a new Supervisor.
They got a New Director and a new Supervisor that according to my old employees are both doing a great job.
I am pleased to say the new Supervisor is the man I recommended a week before I retired, he’s a former Army Paramedic and is doing an outstanding job in my opinion, my old crewmen also think he is doing great.
I only ever had four rules;
1: Don’t ever lie to me.
2: Don’t ever cheat the organization (or yourself).
3: Don’t ever steal from the organization.
4: Do your damn job to the best of your ability at all times.
A pardon, while much better than nothing, will not accomplish those things.
The last I heard was that there is a new trial motion pending. One or two jurors were biased and were not forthcoming about it. If the new trial is granted the conviction goes away, and the FBI has to decide whether to go forward when the defendant is ready to actually defend himself, and when they have lost records pertaining to the case. If the motion for new trial is denied, it may be time for the President to consider that pardon.
Well you appear to be a product of the old school.
I was a Rickover selectee. trained in his schools as an engineer, and when discharged I went to work for a spell for Hughes, assigned at Caltech/JPL which was an amazing experience, amazing group of people.
I worked daily with a GM-15, as we were contracted to support his office. In his younger years he had worked alongside Werner Von Braun and would tell me about his genius for things and how it rubbed off on people.
I worked alongside other federal engineers who were top of the line. They were just plain sharp, no words could adequately express how they saw things so clearly and had their priorities so well mapped out.
After a few years the GM-15 wanted to bring me in to replace him at a GS-14 level and groom me to take over for him as he was going to retire from federal service and move on the work for Teledyne-Ryan.
But he showed me the reality (he was old-fashioned honest) that had set in. So much deadwood had accumulated around his office, so many non-performing employees that could not be fired outright. If these employees were to be evaluated for termination, there was a long drawn out process of remedial actions and hearings that always gave a chance for these employees to hang around a lot longer than they deserved. He told me he’d like to fire them but couldn’t without spending all his time on it. So after awhile he just ignored them.
I turned the offer down as I couldn’t see myself as a caretaker for what some called a geriatric farm.
Pretty damn pathetic.
The federal workforce built in so many protections for their jobs and then stood by as Congress hiked their pay and benefits each and every year that eventually they surpassed the private sector in salary and benefits on the average.
The federal workforce is so large now that any attempt to reduce the force to appropriate levels is a political action that can result in members losing their seats in Congress.
And most of them hate Trump.
The last season’s football game had the DC stadium crowd cheering the President while the federal employees booed him.
Something’s got to give.
Some say we need a real war to clear out the crap. But then we don’t want wars. Maybe we are screweed.
In addition, we must abolish the Federal Reserve and start issuing sovereign money backed by specie (gold/silver/copper/palladium/rhodium,etc.).
You will get no argument FRom me on either of those points!
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Sorry. Had a Biden moment. Stone is seeking the new trial. Flynn is moving to withdraw his guilty plea. Same issue faces the Feds if they end up having to try or re-try a defendant after inconvenient facts come out.
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