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Ventilator shortage – CPAP machines to the rescue?
Value Walk ^ | MAR 12, 2020 | JOHN F. BANZHAF

Posted on 03/14/2020 4:48:02 PM PDT by rintintin

WASHINGTON, D.C. (March 12, 2020) - CNN's Dr. Sanjay Gupta and other experts are predicting that, as the coronavirus continues to spread, our country's need for ventilators for the 1% of those afflicted who require them - one million people - would completely overwhelm the available supply of only about 72,000 full ventilators, many of which are already in use for patients with other medical problems.

But CPAP machines, already in wide use for people who snore, might be used as a temporary stopgap for those whose ventilator needs are not as severe and as complicated, suggests professor John Banzhaf, an MIT-educated engineer and inventor with several patents.

Banzhaf also says that a simple 20-second handwashing timer, mounted next to sinks, could also save many lives, since most people do not wash their hands long enough to effectively stop the spread of both the corona and flue viruses.

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1 posted on 03/14/2020 4:48:02 PM PDT by rintintin
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To: rintintin

Author obviously owns CPAP stock.


2 posted on 03/14/2020 4:50:11 PM PDT by hadaclueonce ( This time I am Deplorable)
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To: hadaclueonce

Let me guess...they’re mfg in China?


3 posted on 03/14/2020 4:53:18 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: rintintin

CPAPs are very expensive. Insurance is what usually covers them.


4 posted on 03/14/2020 4:57:07 PM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs)
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To: rintintin

Depending on severity of each individual case, the pressure settings would probably need to be jacked up a little higher than in a typical CPAP application, but they’d likely work in some cases...at least better than nothing at all.


5 posted on 03/14/2020 4:58:17 PM PDT by lgjhn23 (It's easy to be a liberal when one is dumber than a box of rocks...)
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To: nascarnation

I use a CPAP and have for years, I bet a lot of us would glady turn over to a hospital if it saved someone’s life.

I actually own two CPAP machines.....

I know a number of people who have CPAP machines who refuse to use them because they can’t get use to them.

if CPAP machines would work I bet thousands could be rounded up...


6 posted on 03/14/2020 4:58:24 PM PDT by srmanuel
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To: rintintin

This is a huge relief. My husband has speed apnea and owns a CPAP machine. He said that he would share it with me.


7 posted on 03/14/2020 5:00:04 PM PDT by HotKat (Politicians are like diapers; they need to be changed often and for the same reason. Mark Twain)
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To: the OlLine Rebel

“...CPAPs are very expensive.....”
They definitely have been in the past...and still are for some models, but the prices have come down. I recently purchased a smaller travel-type unit on sale for around $250 from CPAP.com, and it works just as well as my larger/older $800 rig...quieter too. :)


8 posted on 03/14/2020 5:01:37 PM PDT by lgjhn23 (It's easy to be a liberal when one is dumber than a box of rocks...)
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To: srmanuel

“I use a CPAP and have for years, I bet a lot of us would glady turn over to a hospital if it saved someone’s life.”

You sound like a good person!


9 posted on 03/14/2020 5:02:06 PM PDT by rintintin (qu)
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To: the OlLine Rebel

Insurance and the co pay are what’s expensive..... you rent the machine for a year for 100.00 bucks a month then you own it.... the machine costs 600 bucks brand new....


10 posted on 03/14/2020 5:04:16 PM PDT by joe fonebone (Communists Need To Be Eliminated)
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To: rintintin
A CPAP (Constant Positive Airway Pressure) machine would not function well as a ventilator since it just blows air one way, towards the patient.
A BIPAP (Bilevel Positive Airway Pressure) machine, which I use to sleep with operates pretty much the same as a ventilator and with the settings done right might perform pretty well. It helps exhalation, too - unlike the CPAP.
The author may have confused the two appliances.
11 posted on 03/14/2020 5:04:56 PM PDT by dainbramaged (That information is classified. Request denied.)
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To: srmanuel

I got 4 old working ones in the basement..... just tell me where to drop them off


12 posted on 03/14/2020 5:05:37 PM PDT by joe fonebone (Communists Need To Be Eliminated)
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To: HotKat

our power went out last night and I could not sleep due to my breathing stopping and it woke me up constantly....thank God I had no place to go in the morning


13 posted on 03/14/2020 5:06:10 PM PDT by cherry
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To: rintintin

I have an extra one and would donate it to one of the local hospitals in a second.


14 posted on 03/14/2020 5:06:50 PM PDT by Maine Mariner
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To: lgjhn23

Yeah, the home ones don’t seem to be as strong as the hospital. Better than nothing.


15 posted on 03/14/2020 5:07:26 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear ("Progressives" (elitist Communists) "Love you to death".)
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To: rintintin

The Pandemic Ventilator project...

https://www.instructables.com/id/The-Pandemic-Ventilator/


16 posted on 03/14/2020 5:09:59 PM PDT by Bobalu (We are going to witness such a circus between now and Nov that we should have to buy tickets)
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To: srmanuel

I’m with you. I use a CPAP and would gladly donate mine to a patient in need.


17 posted on 03/14/2020 5:10:47 PM PDT by CrimsonTidegirl
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Unfortunately, if a patient needs a ventilator, it’s a severe case and the prognosis won’t be good regardless. I can’t find the source at the moment, but I recall a stat about 30 of 31 patients on ventilators did not survive.

The trick will be to find medicines that work before the lungs fail...


18 posted on 03/14/2020 5:14:46 PM PDT by bhl
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To: Bobalu

https://hackaday.io/project/170189-pandemic-pressure-control-ventilator

https://github.com/wikirona/wikirona/blob/master/resources/pdfs/DMD2010-3845.pdf

https://www.popsci.com/diy/article/2010-05/invention-awards-breathing-easy/


19 posted on 03/14/2020 5:15:05 PM PDT by Bobalu (We are going to witness such a circus between now and Nov that we should have to buy tickets)
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“Banzhaf also says that a simple 20-second handwashing timer, mounted next to sinks, could also save many lives, since most people do not wash their hands long enough to effectively stop the spread of both the corona and flue virus.”

How the **** will 20 sec hand wash do a freaking thing to stop the virus?

Most people will get the virus when they are out and about far away from any way to wash their hands.

They could scrub the hide off their hands 2 hours later and it won’t do a thing to stop a virus they already got.


20 posted on 03/14/2020 5:16:17 PM PDT by Beagle8U (Slo-Joe Biden... puts the Dem in Dementia.)
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