Posted on 03/11/2020 8:58:34 AM PDT by C19fan
veryone knows that living in California comes with a price: Its residents pay some of the nation’s highest taxes on the money they earn, the gas they pump and the clothes they wear. But for the moment, at least, it appears voters have had enough.
The defeat Tuesday of the largest borrowing proposal in the history of California schools — $15 billion for repairs — has opened the question of whether Californian voters put a temporary halt to the growth of government debt because of the unsettled political scene, or because they are on the cusp of a tax revolt akin to one in the 1970s that brought landmark changes to property taxes.
By itself, the crash of the question on the March 3 primary ballot was striking — it’s been a generation since a state school bond failed and there was no telling moment prior to the election indicating voters had soured on it.
But it didn’t stop there. Voters rejected more than half of the 237 local tax and bond measures on that ballot, with several dozen contests still undecided as California authorities wade through hundreds of thousands of uncounted ballots, according to a tally by the California Taxpayers Association.
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LOL! Yeah, I remember voters voting something in cali down a few years ago and the courts overturned it anyway.
Democrats in action again.
Part of this could be that the state has lots of cash right now. The current year state budget is projected to have at least a $15 billion surplus.
Some of the talk I heard about this proposition, is that people think we could use some of the tax money we have already paid in, and is sitting in the state bank account, to fund these school renovations, rsther than floating yet another bond issue to do it
This is bullcrap- people love high taxes .
Why do you think they keep voting for tax hiking politicians?
As always, no disrespect meant to the good people on FR including its management. I also live behind enemy lines in a MI region that gushes over leftists 80-20% in all elections.
A conservative activist said on a radio interview that CA has lots of conservatives all over but the concentrated city Dem. vote tidal waves overwhelm them for the uniparty results.
And there is no logical answer to: "I couldn't stand the filth,gangs,high violent crime rates,sanctuary city policies, poor services and sky high taxes for corrupt Dem politicians to skim off in California. Thus, I moved to another state AND VOTE ALL DEM ALL THE TIME AGAIN."
“There is a sense that California isn’t working,” Claremont McKenna College political scientist Jack Pitney said.
Anyone else picking up that whiff in the air?
The mood against the biggest bond proposal had been growing for months. Part of that mood was whether or not you were for “helping schools”, too many parts of the proposition were at least NOT transparent and at most deceptive about their full and real impact.
Also, voters did not forget - they were reminded by opponents of the proposition - that a number of other state “school bond” issues had been approved in recent years, yet the schools had plenty of funds for outrageous things - like the L.A. school district buying iPads for 400,000 students - and some things those bonds had been borrowed to accomplish were still not done.
Maybe the people of Kalifornia are finally understanding that overtime they vote to fund something that comes out of the State House that it just creates another pool of money for the politicians and their cronies to loot!
My long sad experience in California has been that while it has periodic spasms of conservatism, it drifts relentlessly Leftward. It will continue to do so, until it falls off a cliff.
If they weren’t educating all those illegal kids there would be more than enough money to have the best schools in the country with the best paid teachers.
It was never about school construction, but a means to end run the original Prop 13. Just like the lottery and gas taxes were frauds. Dems have wanted to raid property taxes since the beginning of time. And they’ll be back with something else. There isn’t enough money in the world to sate their hunger.
No doubt there is someone shopping around for the right judge to fix this problem.
Actually, there is a simple answer that explains nearly everything about our dysfunctional politics, even if it may make little sense to principled conservatives.
Tribalism ... one of mankind’s most primitive impulses.
My tribe over your tribe — first, last, and always.
In the photo that leads the article, it says electrical wires hang from the ceilings. The editors are flat out wrong, those are low voltage network cables, but way to “scare” and “shame” the voters...
I’ve seen many elections where the votes on the propositions turned out mostly conservative, yet the far leftist candidates won. To me, this is a big indicator of vote fraud. The fraudsters do not bother stuffing the ballot box for propositions (the ones they don’t like will be overturned by a radical court), but only for candidates. The vote fraud machine in CA runs very smoothly.
In several CA districts last week, two Republicans split 60+% of the vote and the lone Dem won with less than 40%.
“It was never about school construction, but a means to end run the original Prop 13. Just like the lottery and gas taxes were frauds”
I don’t believe so. This new Prop 13 would have raised money via Bonds. The initiative that everyone needs to pay attention to is a Constitutional State amendment that is on the ballot in Nov. It raises Commercial / Industrial building property taxes. So California wants to distroy businesses. When that well is dried up via Business / job loss they will come after personnel property Real Estate. Yes it a Trojan horse essentially. There surely will be a huge “No” campaign come the Fall. There was no such “No” campaign for Prop 13.
“...as California authorities wade through hundreds of thousands of uncounted ballots”
Should we now expect an unexpected reversal of the unexpected results?
“Should we now expect an unexpected reversal of the unexpected results?”
As long as a Rat finished in the top two to make it Nov. probably not. They will save the cheating for the General election. In 2018 numerous day of the vote Republican winners lost a week later when those pristine as the driven snow Mail in votes were counted.
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