Posted on 03/11/2020 6:21:35 AM PDT by Kaslin
Sen. Mike Lee of Utah has adopted in the 21st Century the same interpretation of the Constitution's war power that President George Washington did in the years immediately following ratification of the Constitution.
Lee and Washington are right. Those who reject their interpretation are wrong.
"Any sustained offensive military operation would require congressional authorization," Lee told me in an interview last week.
When the framers of the Constitution convened on Aug. 17, 1787, the issue of the day was language in the draft Constitution that gave Congress the power "to make war."
Charles Pinckney of South Carolina, according to notes taken by James Madison of Virginia, opened the debate by suggesting the Senate alone should be given this power.
Pierce Butler, also of South Carolina, then made a recommendation that incited some ire. He called for "vesting the power in the President."
Not one delegate spoke up to support Butler's proposal.
In fact, Madison and Elbridge Gerry of Massachusetts countered Butler's proposal by offering their own amendment.
They "moved to insert 'declare,' striking out 'make' war; leaving to the Executive the power to repel sudden attacks."
Roger Sherman of Connecticut agreed with the idea of giving the president the limited power to "repel" attacks but did not believe the language needed to be amended.
"George Washington understood that," he said.
Lee believes that Barack Obama violated the Constitution when he intervened in Libya's civil war, but that Trump acted with legitimate constitutional authority when he killed Iranian Gen. Qassem Soleimani.
"Was it a constitutional act for President Obama to intervene in the (Libyan) civil war using the United Nations as his justification?" I asked Lee.
"No," he said, "and it's especially important there to remember that the minute you acknowledge that we're undertaking an offensive, sustained military campaign of any sort -- as I think we are the minute we're supporting an offensive measure, whether it's as a co-belligerent or whether we're acting alone, to destabilize the incumbent government of a foreign country on that country's soil -- we have crossed the threshold into war."
I asked Lee, "Does the president have the power to initiate a war with Iran?"
"No," he said. "The president does have the authority to repel attacks and defend us from an actual or imminent attack. The president had the authority to kill General Soleimani. This occurred just a couple of days following an attack on a U.S. compound in the Middle East, and it occurred a couple of days before they believe other attacks were about to occur."
"So, taking out Soleimani was a good modern example of the president using his power to repel sudden attacks?" I asked Lee.
"That's right," Lee said.
He was right again.
Too bad Mike Lee (and the rest) don’t adopt the original meaning of natural born citizen.
What the F are you talking about. Do you think you’re the only one who knows it. Senator Mike Lee was born in Mesa, Arizona. For your information Arizona is one of the 50 United States of America. Stop making a fool of yourself, you are getting to be boring.
The Constitution? Do we still have one of those?
Ted Cruz was born a Cuban in Canada.
Bobby Jindal was born an Indian in LA.
Nikki Haley was born an Indian in SC.
Micro Rubio was born a Cuban in FL.
George P. Bush was born a Mexican in TX.
Natural born citizen are born here of citizen parents and are NATURALLY citizens because they CANNOT be anything else.
The children of foreign nationals are themselves born foreign nationals, even if born here and awarded US citizenship.
They are NOT natural born citizens.
No, the Congress abrogated it on Usurpation Day, January 20, 2009
Natural born citizen are born here of citizen parents and are NATURALLY citizens because they CANNOT be anything else.
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This is the gist of the Minor v. Happersett SCOTUS case.
This should be part of a Comprehensive Immigration Enforcement bill, missing since 1986 ONE TIME amnesty. The List of Comprehensive Immigration Enforcement, missing since 1986 goes like this -
1) southern barrier;
2) require eVerify to hire;
3) end all chain migration;
4) birthright per Minor v. Happersett (plural parents);
5) end work visas;
6) 10-year moratorium on all new applications for citizenship (40 years to allow workplace automation effects on downsizing population);
7) Set up an illegal aliens’ victim restitution fund.
Enactment of these provisions will motivate illegal aliens to SELF-deport, and remove colonizadors from our welfare rolls.
“The children of foreign nationals are themselves born foreign nationals, even if born here and awarded US citizenship.”
I am neither a lawyer nor a politician, though I have owned or co-owned many of each in my career.
You are correct. Other lawyers and politicians will disagree and lie about it. They will claim the “law” is whatever they want, need or claim it says...it is for this very purpose to obfuscate and usurp that they are trained and paid.
Likewise, it is for these very sins against the Laws of Nature and Nature’s God that they all need to be hung.
Delaware is the first state that (ratified the Constitution on December 7, 1787). Also the Constitution does not say that both parents have to be natural born citizen Only one has to be. A Parent is either the father or the mother, not both. In Ted Cruz's case it's his mother who is the natural born US citizen which makes him a natural born Citizen and don't you think he would have been advised that he was ineligible for the Presidency? Are you that ignorant?
His father was a Cuban, he was born with THREE nationalities, Cuban, US, and Canadian.
He is NOT a natural born citizen.
His mother being one does not make him one anymore than Winston Churchill’s mother being one made him one.
Congress bestowed HONORARY citizenship on Churchill in the 1950’s.
Ted Cruz is just as much a natural born citizen as Anwar al-Awlaki’s kids, born in Yemen to one citizen parent.
BOTH parties wanted the protections of the natural born citizen requirement neutered, that’s why they went along with the Kenyanesian Usurpation.
FUML. I have ZERO use for this traitor/supposed conservative.
You can’t trust anyone who wears “magic underpants”. It does something to their brains.
Another “Made Up” FAKE religion like Islam. I think Muhammad and Joseph Smith were brothers of a different mother.
Of what worth is a religion “made out of whole cloth”.
Meaning: “utterly without foundation in fact, completely fictitious.”
What did he do?
When our son 6 weeks old my husband who is a natural born US Citizen from Upstate New York took me and our son to Munich to the American Consulate that is A M E R I C A N C O N S U L A T E, to get his birth registered and receive his American Birth certificate.
We did the same thing with our daughter who was born about seven years later in the same hospital her brother was born.
Governor Bobby Lindal did not run for President but for Governor of Louisiana which was perfectly legal. After all Arnold Schwarzenegger a naturalized citizen from Austria (they speak German there in case you are not aware just like that arrogant pos former occupant of 1600 Pennsylvania Ave wasn't.
Nikki Haley who was born in South Carolina is also a former Governor. Which is also perfectly legal as it was for Arnold Schwarzenegger. Haley has stated that, as a daughter of immigrants, she believes the immigration laws should be enforced.[36] She voted in favor of a law that requires employers to be able to prove that newly hired employees are legal residents of the United States, and also requires all immigrants to carry documentation at all times proving that they are legally in the United States. Haley signed an "Arizona-style" law cracking down on illegal immigration in June 2011.[37] The law is the subject of a lawsuit initiated by the United States Justice Department on numerous grounds, including claims the immigration law violates the Supremacy Clause. Rob Godfrey, a spokesman for Haley, said, "If the feds were doing their job, we wouldn't have had to address illegal immigration reform at the state level. But, until they do, we're going to keep fighting in South Carolina to be able to enforce our laws."
BTW when my husband brought me to the states on September 25th 1966 as he was transferred back to the states, (he was on order for Vietnam) I immigrated and received a Green card which declared me a legal Resident. I had to carry the card always with me and had to report every December to the Authorities which I did. On June 12th 1977 I became a US Citizen in Junction Citizen.
Who's Micro Rubio, who btw was born in Miami Florida which is the 27th State of the Union It is totally irregardless that his parents were from Cuba as he never ran for president, only Senator which is perfectly legal
Funny I don't see you bitching about those two Muslim Reps from Minnesota or Michigan , one who is married to her own brother
You need to pay closer attention.
Jindal, Rubio and Cruz all ran for President in 2016.
Your children are not natural born citizens.
They were born German citizens because they were born in Germany to a German citizen.
They got their US citizenship through your husband, but could have chosen to be Germans.
Natural born citizen are born here of citizen parents.
If you can be anything else when you are born you cannot be a natural born citizen.
I decided before we went back to Germany in 1977 it was time for me to become a citizen and enrolled in a citizenship class. I learned that you really do not have to wait 5 years to become a US Citizen. There were 3 Korean women who were married to US Soldiers who were being transferred to Germany and the wives were permitted to accompany them. and like I said earlier the examiner chewed me out.
You are mistaken that the birth right is plural. It's Parent Which can either mean Father or Mother.
Ted Cruz was born a Canadian citizen. He only renounced his Canadian citizenship in 2014. He didn’t let Texas voters know he was a Canadian citizen when he ran for the Senate in 2012. I don’t think I would have voted for him if I had known that in 2012 but I did vote for him against Beto.
https://edition.cnn.com/2014/06/11/politics/ted-cruz-canada-citizenship/index.html
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