Posted on 02/29/2020 9:07:27 AM PST by janetjanet998
You are right.
I will have my masks but, don’t expect to need them.
I will give them out to others if needed too.
Missed that interview, would liked to have seen it. Was the interview today?
Shame on him! I believe in free enterprise, but price gouging is illegal AND immoral!
Only certain masks are effective against viruses, because they are so small -— much smaller than dust particles, for instance.
We keep the N95 masks for hay mowing on the farm. I wore them outside three years ago when we were having fires. Smoke is also hard on my asthma. I keep the paper masks to wear during flu season to keep from getting a lung sickness. I got the flu when I was little in both lungs and was in the hospital for six weeks. I had it again 10 years ago and nearly died. I get the flu shot but at 65 I’d rather wear the mask in public than get the flu again. Too many people won’t stay home when they are sick so I wear a mask. I keep a good supply but I don’t hoard them.
You should be fine. Mine were made in China last July. Most viruses have a short lifespan on surfaces, like a couple of days or less. By the time you need them, if you do, anything on them should be dead.
I’m not sure any mask can keep them out except a gas mask.
Using the masks, even dust type, keeps you from touching your mouth and nose, which goes a long way to prevent the spread internally. A pair of goggles or safety glasses would also help to protet the eyes, as well as wearing gloves and washing your hands regularly.
Washington
Lincoln
Reagan
They all were greater than Donald Trump
Wow...did it take you all afternoon to come up with that insult. Lol!
In fact, in many years, in some areas of the US, hospitals beds and ICU's are nearly maxed out by existing needs during the height of flu season.
COVID-19 is more infectious than flu, and has a higher mortality CASE RATE even in top hospitals with top notch capacity and equipment to care for respiratory illnesses. (See study done in the Wuhan University Hospital. That facility is NOT some dump!!)
If* you buy their numbers, China has slowed the spread of COVID-19... with actions only a authoritarian regime or martial law could impose, and which are killing their economy - not to mention damaging many other countries' economies. (I do not really need to explain "supply chain" yet again??) This even hurts exports of raw materials from countries like the US and Canada, to China.
This brings up the question of whether any temperate zone country can, once COVID-19 is well entrenched, walk the tightrope between containment leading to a wrecked economy on one hand (which itself will lead to many deaths), and COVID-19 blowing right past flu and well beyond in number of cases, on the other hand.
*But if you buy the Chinese numbers, and those of other countries now too, there is no denying how quickly this virus spreads in absence of exceptional measures to contain it. If you DON'T buy their numbers, it's worse.
His companion has the virus also with NO symptoms at all
That is, in fact, one of the biggest problems with COVID-19. Even a small % of asymptomatic spreaders make a disease very difficult to contain.
Yes, most people have moderate symptoms to no symptoms, but unlike common colds**, with this virus there are a quite significant number of people (relative to resources) who need hospitalization, or even ICU level treatment. Are you just writing them off? Do you have no friends or loved ones who might fit this category?
Once hospital bed and ICU capacities are surpassed, then deaths from all causes, and respiratory illnesses in particular, will increase in parallel with the gap in available treatments.
**Indeed, perhaps the best "simple" way to think of COVID-19 is as the common cold, except with a significant percentage of severe to critical cases. Even if that percentage is only 1% or 2%, well, run the numbers as time passes.
With a little luck, and our "best and brightest" "on it, hopefully the spread can be slowed, and maybe most of the US will have a warm / early spring. That should help, and buy time for the fall virus season. The global economic problems are going to be tough any way you cut it, even if infections level off in a week or two. South Korea is going to tell us a lot.
Panic? No. That almost never makes sense. (Maybe if there are more zombies in the zombie hoard than my buddies and I have bullets... /s)
"Yellow alert" for family health and economic risks? Yes, I'd say that's appropriate.
For some reason everyone always assumes it will be someone else doing all the dying.
Yeah, that’s often true.
In my own case, I have some risk factors: Age / at a much younger age I did way too much work in smoky bars / some predisposition, it would seem, toward deep chest colds that take months to go away / have teenage daughter and wife is a teacher... But, still, I’m relatively healthy: I’d guess if some COVID-19 carrier comes up and spits in my eye (/s), the odds are probably 5:1 I won’t end up seriously ill.
That said though, I have a brother working on 1/3 lung capacity (mostly scar tissue - flu followed by necrotic pneumonia, a few years back) & he works in a restaurant!; my daughter has asthma; and my Mom who I help care for is 89+, and rather feeble. Gotta hope this doesn’t get loose in a big way in the US before warm weather arrives.
Someone, I missed the identification, was predicting that 40 to 70% of all US adults would eventually catch the coronavirus. Currently the death rate seems to be between 2 and 3%. If good US medical care cuts it to 1/2 of 1% or .5%, then we could still be looking at 500,000 to 1,000,000 deaths. I heard they are now checking some prior flu cases and deaths therefrom to see if it might have been Covid-19, especially in the upper northwest where some who were sick had no explaining exposure. They are considering that Covid-19 had already been here a little while.
Flu is already an established illness in the US. The CDC goal is to keep it, Ebola, SARS, and other new or rare illnesses from getting established here in the US. I read somewhere that SARS had as much as a 25% mortality rate which is why a really strong effort was made to isolate the spread. When the “Spanish Flu” of 1919-20 circled the earth I think about 50 million people died. It was just an especially nasty flu species which spread especially fast as people moved around because of the end of WW1. Soldiers coming home, refugees returning to their cities, etc.
My son, now living in Puerto Rico, says the government has urged people to take extra Vitamin C to fight Zika Virus and Chikungunya virus. I think taking extra Vitamin C 3 or 4 times a day would be good to fight Covid-19 too. After Hurricane Maria he said Vitamin C was very hard to find in stores.
Chikungunya is a viral disease transmitted to humans by infected mosquitoes. It causes fever and severe joint pain. Other symptoms include muscle pain, headache, nausea, fatigue and rash. Joint pain is often debilitating and can vary in duration.Apr 12, 2017
I ran across the statement about gutting the CDC and damaging the US pandemic response capability so I did some research on that and other issues which appears below.
Here are some links describing the Trump actions regarding pandemic emergency organization response. Then links regarding the possible effect of female hormone on death rates. And finally a link with map and showing state by state response. Cases in Washington state and California indicate that Covid-19 may have been there prior to Wohan’s public infection rate.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-fire-pandemic-team/ [this clarifies specific facts about Trump’s actions.]
https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/01/31/coronavirus-china-trump-united-states-public-health-emergency-response/
[This describes in great detail the ways in which the various programs and communications that the Obama admin. developed as a result of the Ebola scare and other potential pandemics were eliminated or greatly reduced by the Trump admin.]
I spoke yesterday with a friend who is a PhD in a biomedical field and she brought to my attention that men are more susceptible to dying of coronavirus than women and it may have something to do with higher estrogen levels.
https://www.advisory.com/daily-briefing/2020/02/25/men-coronavirus [This link has details on this issue.]
https://www.forbes.com/sites/ninashapiro/2020/02/22/sex-does-matter-when-it-comes-to-coronavirus/#500405f0a436
[A detailed report showing mortality rates at various age groups and sexes, also other dangerous viruses.]
https://time.com/5783771/covid-19-us-cases/
[Has map and state by state description of infected and govt. response.] It might be useful to go back to some severe flu cases and especially deaths to see if they were in fact Covid-19, not the flu.
Way to go! Change the subject.
You’re responding ....TODAY .....to a post I made Feb29......5 days ago!...
..and accusing me of changing the subject!
Seriously?
If he doesn’t shut down travel from Italy I’ll be very disappointed in him. He is allowing cases of COVID-19 to flow freely into the United States right now. Most of the new cases showing up are people coming from or returning from Italy. Shameful.
That’s YOUR opinion.
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