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Latest U.S. Coronavirus Case Suggests True Scope of Undetected Spread is Unknown
Scientific American ^ | Feb 27, 2020 | Helen Branswell

Posted on 02/27/2020 2:34:30 PM PST by DannyTN

The discovery that a California woman was likely infected with the novel coronavirus by a previously unrecognized case in her community is proof of an enormous problem the country is facing at the moment, according to public health experts. It’s clear that the virus is spreading undetected in the United States—but how broadly it’s spreading is an utter mystery.

Before Thursday, a perfect storm of problems in the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s development of test kits—and the agency’s reluctance to expand its recommendation of who should be tested given the limited availability of kits—meant very little testing has been done in the country. As of Wednesday, the CDC said that 445 people had been tested—a fraction of the number of tests that other countries have run. ...

(Excerpt) Read more at scientificamerican.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: chinavirusus; communityspread; coronavirus; covid19; sarscov2; virus; wuhan
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New guidance on testing... "People with symptoms compatible with Covid-19 and who have recently traveled to China, Iran, Italy, Japan, or South Korea should be tested for the virus, the new guidance says." Or anyone with ARDS (acute Respiratory Distress Syndrome) that doesn't have a diagnosed cause.
1 posted on 02/27/2020 2:34:30 PM PST by DannyTN
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To: DannyTN

We should go ahead and shut down air travel with any country with more than 100 cases.


2 posted on 02/27/2020 2:35:30 PM PST by DannyTN
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To: DannyTN

Sounds fine, but the horse has already left the barn.

The virus is alive and well in every US large city by now—it is just going to have to run its course.

It will be a rough March, but hopefully warmer weather will improve the situation.


3 posted on 02/27/2020 2:38:23 PM PST by cgbg (The Democratic Party is morphing into the Donner Party)
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To: DannyTN

Agreed and close at least the southern border.


4 posted on 02/27/2020 2:38:34 PM PST by madison10
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To: DannyTN
One guy infected everyone else in Italy and he wasn't from China, nor had he been there.

But shutting down travel, for a while, is a good idea and not just for places where 100 or more are now infected.

5 posted on 02/27/2020 2:39:13 PM PST by nopardons
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To: DannyTN

One case detected makes it clear that the virus is spreading undetected?


6 posted on 02/27/2020 2:40:52 PM PST by reasonisfaith (What are the implications if the Resurrection of Christ is a true event in history?)
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To: cgbg
That's not true!

There are NOT people who have this virus in every large city here, now.

7 posted on 02/27/2020 2:40:58 PM PST by nopardons
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“...It’s clear that the virus is spreading undetected in the United States—but how broadly it’s spreading is an utter mystery....”
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Yep, it has “spread undetected” to a grand total of one person.


8 posted on 02/27/2020 2:41:03 PM PST by House Atreides (Boycott the NFL 100% — PERMANENTLY)
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To: cgbg
I doubt it's in every US large city by now. We would be seeing ground glass lung syndrome in x-rays and hospitals would be clamoring for tests. And there would be reports of suspected cases. We aren't seeing that. Where you would expect it to be is:
9 posted on 02/27/2020 2:44:48 PM PST by DannyTN
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"ep, it has “spread undetected” to a grand total of one person."

No, one person was detected. How many it's spread to undetected is "an utter mystery", as the comment you replied to said.

10 posted on 02/27/2020 2:45:52 PM PST by mlo
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To: nopardons

I am claiming it is there but not yet detected.

The reason for that claim is because there have been huge holes in international travel since January.

One example is Thailand, where planes from Wuhan could land and those passengers could take flights to anywhere in the world before there any known significant Thai cases.

Any large city would have people who have traveled to countries where the disease was common _before_ we knew it was common.

In addition, our testing has been haphazard and there are technical problems.

It is virtually statistically impossible for any large city to have escaped the virus at this point.

By the time there are any detected cases there will be hundreds if not thousands of undetected cases.

That is just how it works.

This is not anyone’s fault imho—it is just the way it is.


11 posted on 02/27/2020 2:46:12 PM PST by cgbg (The Democratic Party is morphing into the Donner Party)
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To: nopardons

SA, a once great and respected publication, was totally hijacked by leftists some time ago.


12 posted on 02/27/2020 2:47:09 PM PST by gibsonguy
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To: DannyTN

More hysteria. The extent of spread for any disease is always unknown. This is more shiite like the “it’s possible” headlines.

The reason it is unknown is because most people have no symptoms or mild symptoms.

In the meantime...

2019-2020 US flu season statistics (so far):
29,000,000/280,000/16,000/200
Cases/hospitalized/deaths/children deaths

No calls for action of any sort.


13 posted on 02/27/2020 2:47:43 PM PST by FreedomNotSafety
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“that doesn’t have a diagnosed cause.”

That would work. Test for Flu and other stuff quicker then going directly to the coronavirus test.

I wonder if they can do CT scan, I am reading China rely on CT scans to positively identify the infected.

I was also reading about drive through testing in South Korea. I wonder what that consist of.


14 posted on 02/27/2020 2:49:45 PM PST by DEPcom
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There are hundreds in house quarantine in every major city nationwide.


15 posted on 02/27/2020 2:50:32 PM PST by Erik Latranyi (The Democratic Party is communism)
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To: FreedomNotSafety

You don’t see the calls for action about flu because they are everywhere.

How many times have you seen the flu vaccine advertised? How many times has your doctor recommended it?
How many public service ads have you seen?
How many news broadcasts recommend getting the flu shot?
My company offers free flu shots, that I get every year.

I couldn’t begin to count, but I know it’s a lot.


16 posted on 02/27/2020 2:51:39 PM PST by DannyTN
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To: Erik Latranyi

If there were hundreds on house quarantine across this country in communities there would be school closures AND there aren’t any!! Everyone on this site needs to calm down THESE BASTARDS are creating this hype to get Trump AND you are jumping on their train!!!


17 posted on 02/27/2020 2:53:03 PM PST by Trump Girl Kit Cat (Yosemite Sam raising hell)
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To: DEPcom

I’d really like to have home tests for both flu and coronavirus.

I don’t want to visit a doctor’s office over a cold. But would like early identification if it’s something worse.


18 posted on 02/27/2020 2:53:10 PM PST by DannyTN
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To: DannyTN

It “suggests” the “true scope” of hysteria.


19 posted on 02/27/2020 2:53:24 PM PST by jdsteel (Americans are Dreamers too!!!)
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“There are hundreds in house quarantine in every major city nationwide.”

Where in the world did you get that info? CNN?


20 posted on 02/27/2020 2:53:30 PM PST by madison10
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