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Michael Milken deserved Trump's pardon
Washington Examiner ^ | 2/23/20 | F.H. Buckley

Posted on 02/23/2020 6:26:49 AM PST by LibWhacker

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1 posted on 02/23/2020 6:26:49 AM PST by LibWhacker
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2 posted on 02/23/2020 6:30:18 AM PST by LibWhacker
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The author misrepresents Milken’s case we badly as the Feds did when they prosecuted him.


3 posted on 02/23/2020 6:51:27 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("Oh, but it's hard to live by the rules; I never could and still never do.")
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Dang, I wish I could retweet that.


4 posted on 02/23/2020 6:53:25 AM PST by mewzilla (Break out the mustard seeds.)
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How so? Just a couple of points will be fine. I barely remember the case myself.


5 posted on 02/23/2020 7:00:37 AM PST by LibWhacker
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Reaganites who feign shock and disgust at Trump’s pardons, look at this.


6 posted on 02/23/2020 7:01:40 AM PST by conservative98 (Sanders 359 56.09% )
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Did Guiliani prosecute Milken?


7 posted on 02/23/2020 7:06:08 AM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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The author misrepresents Milken’s case we badly as the Feds did when they prosecuted him.
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I don’t know much about this case but, based on our recent several years’ experience with federal prosecutors and their malfeasance, I’ll believe the author over the Feds who prosecuted/persecuted Milken.


8 posted on 02/23/2020 7:11:00 AM PST by House Atreides (Boycott the NFL 100% — PERMANENTLY)
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Very interesting. Thanks for posting.


9 posted on 02/23/2020 7:14:11 AM PST by PGalt (Past Peak Civilization?)
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“Cigar Bill”! Hahaha.


10 posted on 02/23/2020 7:19:01 AM PST by Atticus
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So even under Reagan, the Justice Department was corrupt, threatening family members to cop a plea? Now we can understand why the feds stand at 96% conviction rate. Boy, has Trump thrown open the curtains or what?


11 posted on 02/23/2020 7:19:08 AM PST by thirst4truth (America, What difference does it make?)
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Yes, got him under RICO after Boesky fingered him.

Well... that’s what Wiki says.


12 posted on 02/23/2020 7:20:58 AM PST by LibWhacker
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He was basically engaging in insider trading, but could not be prosecuted directly for it because laws related to insider trading didn’t apply to corporate bonds at the time (only stocks). So he traded bonds and made a fortune using inside information, which would have been OK (legally) at the time but he was working with other parties to have them execute stock trades on the same companies he was buying and selling through his bond business.

His real legal problem was the accusation that he was working with others to hide the nature of many of these transactions by using “cutout” transactions — like taking the proceeds of an illegal sale transaction and reporting it as a “consulting fee” to hide the real source of the revenue from SEC regulators.

13 posted on 02/23/2020 7:30:19 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("Oh, but it's hard to live by the rules; I never could and still never do.")
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I don’t think Milken was totally clean, but I do agree that the prosecution was excessive.

I actually admire Milken — because I’m a big fan of people like him who are so good at their line of work that they can figure out legal ways to work around the futile attempts of legislators and regulators to stop them.

Milken’s problem was that he was literally TOO successful in his line of work (high-yield corporate bonds) ... to the point where he had to push the limits of the law just because he ran out of corporate bonds to underwrite. He was the equivalent of an institutional investor with $2 trillion in his pocket to invest in U.S. government bonds ... but the government doesn’t have $2 trillion in bonds to sell.

14 posted on 02/23/2020 7:35:14 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("Oh, but it's hard to live by the rules; I never could and still never do.")
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Yes, got him under RICO after Boesky fingered him.

Correct, and that's an excellent reason for the pardon on its own. The "Racketeer-Influenced Corrupt Organizations" Act is a corrupt, nonsensical, non-law, "thingie" employed by corrupt organizations in law enforcement that can't prove a crime.

Possible usefulness against mobsters who had committed other offenses was never a justifiable excuse for creating a witch-hunt app for use against political enemies who had failed to commit actual crimes.

15 posted on 02/23/2020 7:38:48 AM PST by SamuraiScot (am)
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16 posted on 02/23/2020 7:40:59 AM PST by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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While it’s true he was prosecuted under rules that were not in place when he did them, I think it’s unfair to say that he was engaged in insider trading.

Every prosecution that was done in the same grouping was overturned. His wasn’t because he’d pleaded guilty due to fighting cancer and to his family being threatened with prosecution. They dumped 98 charges on him or some other outrageous number, knowing that the jury would think he did “something” wrong if they charged him with that many.. not to mention a compliant press happily made him among the most reviled people in the country (all of that sound familiar?)

Much of what Milken did offended the “Thurston Howell the Third” crowd on wall-street, because he cut them out and went around them to fund businesses they didn’t like, AND because he took over companies they had run into the ground and either divested them or put new leadership into place.

He was using something called “stock parking”. The rules are that it can’t be used to avoid other regulations (usually more of a way to avoid unwanted attention or press in the middle of deals).

In any case, Daniel Fischel, a law and econ prof from the U of Chicago wrote a great book on this about 15 years ago.

“Fischel sums up the campaign against Michael Milken this way: “Milken’s downfall proves only that the government, with its unlimited ability to harass and change the rules in the middle of the game, is more powerful than any individual. . . . The unholy alliance of the displaced establishment and `decade of greed’ rich-haters, aided by ambitious but unscrupulous government lawyers . . . combined to destroy him. The whole episode is a national disgrace.”

https://fee.org/articles/payback-the-conspiracy-to-destroy-michael-milken-and-his-financial-revolution/


17 posted on 02/23/2020 7:51:50 AM PST by phothus (http://buanadha.wordpress.com/)
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Milken’ s prostate foundation is very educational for a non-fashionable disease.

Even transgender women, who happen to own a prostate, are eventually going to get prostate cancer.

Terminal prostate cancer is not a nice way to leave.

Have your PSA checked.


18 posted on 02/23/2020 7:53:30 AM PST by gasport (The dung beetle should be the symbol of the Democrat Party)
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How so? Just a couple of points will be fine.

Milken got companies to issue risky "junk" bonds, then repackaged and sold them, hiding the riskiness of the final securities, and so was selling them for more than they were worth. Eventually, payments couldn't be made on the loans, and investors were scr#wed.

19 posted on 02/23/2020 8:45:59 AM PST by Fido969 (In!)
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Thanks all. Concise, good points both sides. Sorry, didn’t mean to Freepmail you.


20 posted on 02/23/2020 9:19:18 AM PST by LibWhacker
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