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Trump Administration Plans to Raise Seasonal-Worker Cap
The Wall Street Journal ^
| 20 Feb 2020
| Michelle Hackman
Posted on 02/21/2020 12:38:49 PM PST by Theoria
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To: semimojo
In the 20 years since that study we've implemented child tax credits that in constant dollars are more than 20 times that size. The fertility rate has continued to decline. [...] what good is a model that's proven it can't survive contact with the real world?Multivariate. Go look it up. Or don't and continue to make a fool of yourself.
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posted on
02/24/2020 9:24:37 AM PST
by
NobleFree
("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
To: NobleFree
Multivariate. Go look it up.Can you just state what you think?
The correlation the paper found between child friendly tax incentives and the fertility rate obviously didn't bear out going forward.
Do you think it's because they didn't consider the other variables that affect fertility rate or because they considered and/or improperly weighted the wrong variables?
To: semimojo
Do you think it's because they didn't consider the other variables that affect fertility rateIt's YOU who keep doing that, to which I keep pointing out that only a multivariate analysis is appropriate; the authors explicitly named several variables that they included (you can find that list at your link as well as mine).
Your link finds a weaker relationship when newer data is included, and somewhat weaker still when other child tax benefits are included. They conclude that the relationship is "not statistically significant" using a standard approach that treats 'no relationship' as the default (null hypothesis); without that debatable assumption, the actual size of the relationship they find is about a third what the earlier authors did - which would mean that an increase in tax value of child benefits of $440 would (all else held equal) get us at least back to replacement level, and $1800 at least back to our circa-1960 peak.
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posted on
02/24/2020 12:42:29 PM PST
by
NobleFree
("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
To: Theoria
Very disappointing. Raise wages and pay Americans to work.
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posted on
02/24/2020 12:44:59 PM PST
by
central_va
(I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
To: Hot Tabasco
I have no issues with seasonal workers coming and going home....
To: Alberta's Child
Employers can't find temporary workers during their peak summer season because the are unwilling to pay wages high enough to attract Americans to work.
Fixed it.
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posted on
02/24/2020 12:47:01 PM PST
by
central_va
(I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
To: livius
Good. A lot of stuff, ranging from construction to harvesting, has been held up by lack of laborers. As long as theyre vetted and legal, it sounds like a great idea.Sounds like you are Free Traitor.
PAY MORE!!!!
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posted on
02/24/2020 12:48:21 PM PST
by
central_va
(I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
To: livius
There simply arent enough American workers willing to do labor
at the wages being offered.Stuff you globalist BS. "Jobs Americans won't do for 3rd world wages" Bump.
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posted on
02/24/2020 12:51:19 PM PST
by
central_va
(I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
To: 9YearLurker
There is a huge segment of the GOP who think wages for Americans can’t be driven low enough. They are like dog sh!t stuck to our shoes stinking up the place.
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posted on
02/24/2020 12:53:58 PM PST
by
central_va
(I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
To: Rebelbase
The locals would rather stay home than work
for the pay being offered.
Fixed it.
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posted on
02/24/2020 12:55:23 PM PST
by
central_va
(I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
To: NobleFree
The worst thing about last 30 years of globalism is the loss of respect for the US wage earner. Somehow they became the enemy.
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posted on
02/24/2020 12:58:02 PM PST
by
central_va
(I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
To: Hot Tabasco
You may have taught them but my Tier I auto stamping company tried to hire them. They weren't offering enough money. Slavery died 150 years ago in case you didn't know.
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posted on
02/24/2020 1:00:20 PM PST
by
central_va
(I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
To: Hot Tabasco
Change your name to Hot Idiot.
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posted on
02/24/2020 1:01:16 PM PST
by
central_va
(I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
To: Hot Tabasco
What sets the price of anything? The law of supply and demand. You should read up on it you idiot.
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posted on
02/24/2020 1:03:08 PM PST
by
central_va
(I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
To: trebb
Raising wages/benefits for part time labor would also raise the cost of food - and get a whole new set of folks whining.Wow, let them. We are talking a mere pennies on the dollar.
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posted on
02/24/2020 1:07:42 PM PST
by
central_va
(I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
To: NobleFree
...I keep pointing out that only a multivariate analysis is appropriate; the authors explicitly named several variables that they included...Such an analysis is only as good as the variables considered.
We have proof that their projections were wildly off so I guess we can conclude they considered the wrong variables.
...the actual size of the relationship they find is about a third what the earlier authors did...
The important part of what they found was the tax incentives affected the timing of births but not the overall number in the medium to long term.
"...which would mean that an increase in tax value of child benefits of $440 would (all else held equal) get us at least back to replacement level, and $1800 at least back to our circa-1960 peak.
Wait. On the one hand you claim a multivariate analysis but the conclusions only hold if "all else held equal"?
Look, whatever they considered their conclusions simply don't hold in the real world.
We've provided much bigger tax incentives than they say are necessary and the rate hasn't improved.
To: central_va
They weren't offering enough money. Slavery died 150 years ago in case you didn't know.
LOL! You forgot your sarcasm tag...........
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posted on
02/24/2020 2:38:49 PM PST
by
Hot Tabasco
(I want an impeachment pen)
To: central_va
They weren't offering enough money. Slavery died 150 years ago in case you didn't know.
So $17.00 per hour for summer time employment in a manufacturing plant that also included overtime is considered "Slave Wages"..........?????
We know what side of the aisle you're coming from don't we?......................
Change your name to Hot Idiot.
Change YOUR name to Mr. Dunmbass..........
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posted on
02/24/2020 2:44:35 PM PST
by
Hot Tabasco
(I want an impeachment pen)
To: Hot Tabasco
So $17.00 per hour for summer time employment in a manufacturing plant that also included overtime is considered "Slave Wages"..........?????I only want to pay $2.00/pound for ground beef. For some reason I can't get any at the price.
dear clueless, you only get to set prices in Communist countries for labor. This is the USA pay more and you will get more people for the job. Try $20. Then $22. etc. Get it? Its called a FREE MARKET.
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posted on
02/24/2020 3:06:48 PM PST
by
central_va
(I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
To: central_va
This is the USA pay more and you will get more people for the job. Try $20. Then $22. etc. Get it? Its called a FREE MARKET.
Apparently your "Free Market" isn't willing to pay those $20, then $22 for the jobs that you haven't mentioned....You just contradicted yourself. Nice try .......LOL!
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posted on
02/24/2020 3:33:43 PM PST
by
Hot Tabasco
(I want an impeachment pen)
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