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How Many Coronavirus Cases in China? Officials Tweak the Answer
The New York Times ^ | Feb 12 2020 | Vivian Wang

Posted on 02/12/2020 4:27:00 PM PST by Theoria

China’s health authorities have decided to no longer count as confirmed cases those patients who test positive but don’t show symptoms. Skepticism was immediate.

The news was abrupt and, to some, surprising: Overnight, Heilongjiang, a Chinese province near Russia, had cut its count of confirmed coronavirus cases by more than a dozen.

The revision stemmed from what appeared to be a bureaucratic decision, buried in a series of dense documents from the national government. Health officials said that they would reclassify patients who had tested positive for the new coronavirus but did not have symptoms, and take them out of the total count of confirmed cases.

The documents offered little detail or explanation, and skepticism was immediate. A Hong Kong newspaper called the decision a “disguise.” World Health Organization officials seemed caught off guard when asked about the move at a news conference this week.

The change in counting cases is only one factor that has made it difficult for experts to determine the true scale of the epidemic. The tally so far is that the coronavirus has killed at least 1,100 people and sickened more than 44,000, but experts say definitive numbers are elusive.

In the days since the changes emerged, several virus experts around the world have said that the reclassification was a minor change, even a typical move during new outbreaks. Other experts questioned the revision.

The wary response in some quarters underscores that mistrust of the Chinese government remains pervasive.


(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: china; cornoavirus; covid2019; virus
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1 posted on 02/12/2020 4:27:00 PM PST by Theoria
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To: Theoria

Huh. Like the Iowa D3mcrat Party caucus


2 posted on 02/12/2020 4:31:35 PM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire. Or both.)
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To: Theoria

The tally in China went up 14,840 yesterday (+242 deaths) in Hubei province alone so its getting hard to hide the true numbers.


3 posted on 02/12/2020 4:49:48 PM PST by UNGN (I've been here since '98 but had nothing to say until now)
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To: Theoria

The world may never know!


4 posted on 02/12/2020 4:52:18 PM PST by Phil DiBasquette
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To: Theoria

There are reports from one crematory claiming to cremate 500 bodies a every day for the last 6 weeks, 21,000 DEAD BODIES. The official death reports from infections is steady at 2.1% of infections. Extrapolate those numbers and you get close to 1,000,000 infections!!


5 posted on 02/12/2020 4:55:20 PM PST by WellyP (question!)
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To: WellyP
There are 49 crematoriums in Wuhan, China all said to be running 24/7 plus the ones added to the quarantine camps the army set up.

That is Wuhan alone. Even our CDC said today that the numbers coming out of China are a lie and after being in China 1 day The WHO had a cow and said this was basically a disaster in the making..

6 posted on 02/12/2020 5:05:56 PM PST by Lady Heron
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To: Phil DiBasquette

It will never know the whole truth in China but the world is about to find out how badly it effects non-Chinese...so far not as badly but we have not outrun our healthcare systems yet.


7 posted on 02/12/2020 5:08:19 PM PST by Lady Heron
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To: Theoria

The confirmed cases just jumped from 40,000 to 60,200.

Seriously?

https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6


8 posted on 02/12/2020 5:12:39 PM PST by super7man (Madam Defarge, knitting, knitting, always knitting)
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To: Phil DiBasquette

Since people are connected via the Internet, it will be harder to cover for long.


9 posted on 02/12/2020 5:30:44 PM PST by Reno89519 (No Amnesty! No Catch-and-Release! Just Say No to All Illegal Aliens! Arrest & Deport!)
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To: Theoria
China’s health authorities have decided to no longer count as confirmed cases those patients who test positive but don’t show symptoms.

Can they still transmit the virus? -Tom

10 posted on 02/12/2020 5:37:38 PM PST by Capt. Tom
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To: Theoria

It’s a good bet North Korea will not be affected.... or will it?


11 posted on 02/12/2020 5:38:35 PM PST by Tenacious 1
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To: super7man

12 posted on 02/12/2020 5:43:58 PM PST by Theoria (I should never have surrendered. I should have fought until I was the last man alive)
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To: Theoria

Thank you for the chart but it is two days old.


13 posted on 02/12/2020 6:36:43 PM PST by super7man (Madam Defarge, knitting, knitting, always knitting)
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To: BenLurkin

Humorous comments like yours are the reason I like FR.

Intellectual wit applied to the news is a powerful weapon.

Thank You


14 posted on 02/12/2020 6:38:42 PM PST by tired&retired (Blessings)
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To: Theoria; neverdem; ProtectOurFreedom; Mother Abigail; EBH; vetvetdoug; Smokin' Joe; Global2010; ...
Communists lie. It's what they do...
Bring Out Your Dead

Post to me or FReep mail to be on/off the Bring Out Your Dead ping list.

The purpose of the “Bring Out Your Dead” ping list (formerly the “Ebola” ping list) is very early warning of emerging pandemics, as such it has a high false positive rate.

So far the false positive rate is 100%.

At some point we may well have a high mortality pandemic, and likely as not the “Bring Out Your Dead” threads will miss the beginning entirely.

*sigh* Such is life, and death...

If a quarantine saves just one child's life, it's worth it.

15 posted on 02/12/2020 7:09:42 PM PST by null and void (The democrats just can't get over the fact that they lost an election they themselves rigged!)
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To: Theoria
Confirmed infections jumped 20,000 in one day. Totals now over 60,000 infected.

https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6

16 posted on 02/12/2020 7:12:04 PM PST by super7man (Madam Defarge, knitting, knitting, always knitting)
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To: Tenacious 1
It’s a good bet North Korea will not be affected.... or will it?

It's there. Chinese refugees.

How bad does it have to be that going to North Korea looks like a good idea?

17 posted on 02/12/2020 7:14:09 PM PST by null and void (The democrats just can't get over the fact that they lost an election they themselves rigged!)
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To: super7man

3hrs late on the next day of reporting...


18 posted on 02/12/2020 7:39:06 PM PST by Theoria (I should never have surrendered. I should have fought until I was the last man alive)
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To: super7man

Yes, seriously.

They decided to include those who they are certain have the virus (because of how sick they are) even if they haven’t tested them officially. This is a good indication that the numbers being reported in Hubei province have been limited by the number of test kits available each day. People are getting sick but aren’t being tested and so, until now, they haven’t been counted.


19 posted on 02/12/2020 8:09:04 PM PST by Norseman (Defund the Left....completely!)
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To: Capt. Tom

Can they still transmit the virus? -Tom

Yes! They carry the virus and can transmit it to others.
China’s epidemiological practices are a complete joke.


20 posted on 02/12/2020 8:27:01 PM PST by doc maverick (I)
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