Posted on 02/09/2020 10:41:46 PM PST by datura
Nor have I. It is speculation at this point.
My own assessment is that 2019-nCoV originated from a research sample that was subjected to experimental modifications for some other purpose. The result turned out to be more contagious and more lethal than expected. And it got loose.
What is no longer speculation is that the virus has some core sequences which "are not the result of natural recombination" according to several researchers in the field. And of course, there are other experts disputing those claims.
You put down your money and place your bets on what you think you know.
In late January I was suspecting this may very well be a means of internal population control/reduction. This has been an agenda item for CCP for generations.
However, having read The Stand cover to cover three times in my teen years, I’m always a little paranoid about these outbreaks.
I feel like I am watching a disaster movie from the mid 1970’s...only the concession stand is closed and you can’t get up from your chair.
Option 4 is the choice of a vaccine gone wrong. There is a paper trail of Chinese research having gone down this path. There are documented failures of vaccines which did produce antibodies, then at a later time greatly enhanced sensitivity to a second exposure. A high fatality rate occurred with the test subjects.
https://jameslyonsweiler.com/2020/01/30/on-the-origins-of-the-2019-ncov-virus-wuhan-china/amp/
From what I understand, the author said he did not think it was likely to be natural, and did not say for certain it was man made. Also, I'm not sure if the author had the experience to make such a determination.
My own assessment based on factual evidence to date is that 2019-nCoV is a natural relative of the known SARS coronavirus.
I have seen no such thing, please post link(s) that support this “non-speculation” speculation.
Incubation period up to 24 days.
https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/3874223
This looks to be a Spanish flu level kill event.
CDC numbers are based on what? What Chi-Coms are telling them? Chinese have been downplaying this and lying consistently.
27 foreigners in China got the virus and 2 have died so far.
Hazmat suits. Quarantine of 50 million people. Do you really think this is a head cold? Or even the flu?
It’s a bioweapon designed to kill and destroy a nation’s infastructure. Doctors and nurses get sick. Hospitals overrun. Economic collapse. It got out and hit them isntead of us.
Let’s review in 60 days
Again, it’s flippin hype like SARS and Bird Flu
There was no pandemic and the world did not get lined up to take shots and prevent the dreaded killers from wiping out humanity
Another person has just posted a link to this information. See # 83 for the details.
As with any controversial research finding, there are supporters and opponents. But these are competent scientists with expertise in their fields of virus research. Their views are far more credible than the opinions of laymen on the internet (such as myself).
I will place my bets on the opinions of the folks at IFAK and CHROME.
My CDC didn’t link
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/index.html
I listened to a group of virologists over the weekend who said it was NOT man made.
It has been identified through genome sequencing by several labs outside China, using their own patients to collect samples.
The Pasteur Institute - Paris was the 1st
https://www.pasteur.fr/en/press-area/press-documents/institut-pasteur-sequences-whole-genome-wuhan-coronavirus-2019-ncov
Obviously not.
I see what the CDC is saying BASED ON CHINESE LIES.
Professor Says Coronavirus is Infecting 50,000 a Day, and He May be Right
https://www.ccn.com/professor-says-coronavirus-infecting-50000-day-he-may-be-right/
If this seems crazy, watch this doc on the Spanish flu. We’re looking at something similar here in terms of kill potential:
https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/films/influenza/
There’s a sulpher cloud over Wuhan due to the bodies being burned there.
Cloud of sulphur dioxide hints at scale of China’s coronavirus cremations
What’s the political fallout? CLOSE THE BORDERS. Globalists don’t want that.
China’s medical infrastructure will be crippled first. Their economy. A Black Swan Event.
Then it’s a global crisis if we don’t keep it from our shores.
24 day incubation period makes that difficult.
It is suggested that the Chinese and WHO are using different definitions of an infected person. If a person tests positive but shows no symptoms, they are not tallied as infected. This goes against the WHO guidelines.
https://www.zerohedge.com/health/how-china-rigging-number-coronavirus-infections
It’s obviously not their job to report the facts.
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Obviously.
Not for a long, long time.
From what I understand, the Spanish Flu (and by extension the new A-H1N1 variant) kills by provoking an immune system hyper-response, sometimes called the “Cytokine Storm” which severely damages the lungs and causes Acute Respiratory Distress (ARD) resulting in oxygen deprivation to the internal organs.
Here is an over the counter (OTC) formula that inhibits some of the major inflammatory mediators, and is now being suggested as a way to stave off ARD. All four factors must be included.
1a) A prescription ACE-2 inhibitor anti-hypertension drug. (Note: Healthy folks w/normal BP would experience a crash in BP, fainting, et al. Those already on other types of BP lowering meds would experience the same.)In addition, it is also recommended to maintain just the MDAR of Vitamin A. Being short of Vitamin A is associated with having an excess of a very powerful inflammatory mediator called TNF-1. But it is easy to take too much Vitamin A, which is toxic. High doses of the provitamin Beta-carotene, which the body converts to Vitamin A, might work as well as straight Vitamin A, and are much less toxic.
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1b) If unavailable, 15,000 IU of Vitamin D (Note: 15,000 IU is a huge dose of Vitamin D, a fat soluble vitamin. This means excess Vitamin D is stored in the liver, rather being excreted. The half life of Vitamin D is roughly three weeks, and Vitamin D toxicity can cause serious problems)2) Histamine-1 blocker. Benedryl or the equivalent.
3) Histamine-2 blocker. Tagamet or the equivalent (normally used to block acid reflux.)
4) Ibuprofen. Advil or the equivalent, a prostaglandin blocker.
Care should be taken to avoid “health foods” that can artificially enhance the immune system, something to be avoided when there is the prospect of ARD.
This was extracted from an earlier thread I've lost track of, with some comments on Vitamin D from NautiNurse, and on ACE-2 inhibitors from reformedliberal added, and a flat out guess on Beta Carotene from me...
PA Engineer added:
N-Acetylcysteine (NAC) is also well documented. I’ll post some of the studies later.
on 01/27/2020
Thanks for that, will read and evaluate.
But I must say that I am highly skeptical of the claim that 2019-nCoV is a bioengineered weapon. The current facts about very low lethality so far show that this “bioweapon” is an absolute failure...
I’ve seen references to ketosis being beneficial in reducing inflammatory processes.
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