Russian State TV Spreads Crazy Coronavirus Conspiracy Theories [Blames President Trump.]

RFE/RL (Kyiv, Ukraine) ^ | February 7, 2020 | Ray Furlong

[CondoleezzaProtege]

Ping! See above story.

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Bring Out Your Dead

Post to me or FReep mail to be on/off the Bring Out Your Dead ping list.

The purpose of the “Bring Out Your Dead” ping list (formerly the “Ebola” ping list) is very early warning of emerging pandemics, as such it has a high false positive rate.

So far the false positive rate is 100%.

At some point we may well have a high mortality pandemic, and likely as not the “Bring Out Your Dead” threads will miss the beginning entirely.

*sigh* Such is life, and death...

If a quarantine saves just one child's life, it's worth it.

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From what I understand, the Spanish Flu (and by extension the new A-H1N1 variant) kills by provoking an immune system hyper-response, sometimes called the “Cytokine Storm” which severely damages the lungs and causes Acute Respiratory Distress (ARD) resulting in oxygen deprivation to the internal organs.

Here is an over the counter (OTC) formula that inhibits some of the major inflammatory mediators, and is now being suggested as a way to stave off ARD. All four factors must be included.

1a) A prescription ACE-2 inhibitor anti-hypertension drug. (Note: Healthy folks w/normal BP would experience a crash in BP, fainting, et al. Those already on other types of BP lowering meds would experience the same.) -or- 1b) If unavailable, 15,000 IU of Vitamin D* (Note: 15,000 IU is a huge dose of Vitamin D, a fat soluble vitamin. This means excess Vitamin D is stored in the liver, rather being excreted. The half life of Vitamin D is roughly three weeks, and Vitamin D toxicity can cause serious problems)

2) Histamine-1 blocker. Benedryl or the equivalent.

3) Histamine-2 blocker. Tagamet or the equivalent (normally used to block acid reflux.)

4) Ibuprofen. Advil or the equivalent, a prostaglandin blocker.

In addition, it is also recommended to maintain just the MDAR of Vitamin A. Being short of Vitamin A is associated with having an excess of a very powerful inflammatory mediator called TNF-1. But it is easy to take too much Vitamin A, which is toxic. High doses of the provitamin Beta-carotene, which the body converts to Vitamin A, might work as well as straight Vitamin A, and are much less toxic.

Care should be taken to avoid “health foods” that can artificially enhance the immune system, something to be avoided when there is the prospect of ARD.

This was extracted from an earlier thread I've lost track of, with some comments on Vitamin D from NautiNurse, and on ACE-2 inhibitors from reformedliberal added, and a flat out guess on Beta Carotene from me...

[Dennis M.]

“The critique comes from Ukraine which is even bigger than Russia on propaganda and conspiracies”

Can you say MSNBC?

[a fool in paradise]

>>Blames President Trump

Adam Schiff speaks for Putin

[Mark17]

How long before the dems starting agreeing with the Russians on this?

Probably yesterday. 😁

[GOPJ]

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/chinese-researcher-escorted-from-infectious-disease-lab-amid-rcmp-investigation-1.5211567

from link:

Chinese researcher escorted from infectious disease lab amid RCMP investigation

Public Health Agency of Canada describes it as a possible ‘policy breach,’ no risk to Canadian public
Karen Pauls · CBC News · Posted: Jul 14, 2019 3:50 PM CT | Last Updated: July 14, 2019

[piasa]

Yeah, they are spreading them with the help of the Lyndon LaRouche cult. One site propagating the bullschitt is Greatgameindia. Anytime you see India think of their long time ally, Russia.

Just for kicks I checked to see if they are related in any way to our old Niger yellowcake flap/Valerie Plame Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity [VIPS] nutbags from John Kerry’s 2004 run for president and the Scooter Libby prosecution...

surprise, surprise,....

They have conspiracy articles interviewing one of the cofounders of Ray McGovern’s group VIPS... a old University of Chicago guy named Philip Giraldi who claims to be and may be former CIA...He is .... [says Wikipedia]:... “Executive Director of the Council for the National Interest.[2]. As an author and analyst, Giraldi writes a regular column for the white supremacist and pro-Nazi media outlet Unz Review. He is controversial for the articles he has written denouncing Judaism and Jews and for his views on the Holocaust whose occurrence he has repeatedly denied. “

UNZ is the publication Valerie Plame kept posting crap from that drew some flak toward her.

[piasa]

greatgameindia....Lyndon LaRouche mouthpiece

[piasa]

Whoever writes it definitely likes the look cult.

[NorseViking]

RFE is jumping a shark with this crap.

At 3:07 the reporter is clearly saying that all of the above is a weird conspiracy hinting you are to expect to see it in the Western media soon.

For some reason RFE chosen not to subtitle this part. Guess why?

Who are pushing propaganda now? I think it is RFE and not the Russian media.

It is not new. Not that long time ago they had a story of a brothel allegedly busted by the police near Moscow. They reported the brothel was working out of church in a monastery.
The funniest part is that they used a video from 8 years ago when the police really busted a brothel but it was located not in a church but across the street from a monastery. It consisted an interview of undercover cop who was talking about it. Then they remastered video as if he was saying the monastery was running a brothel from a church.

RFE/VOA are the very definition of propaganda.

[familyop]

Thanks, piasa! That’s indispensable information, and with a few surprises for some of us!

[NorseViking]

See post #31.

Here is the original Russian program.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=V9jmyrqmTTM
In the very same video they are mocking Pelosi calling her a moonbat for pushing anti-Trump conspiracies. The tone of coronavirus report is clearly tied to it in a satirical way. Nobody ever expected someone to take it for real.

[piasa]

Philip Giraldi also shows up on Iran TV.

[CrimsonTidegirl]

Thank you for inserting some reality and rationality in this thread.

As you stated, the reporter is clearly stating that this isn’t fact, but a conspiracy theory. But, the usual “ALL RUSSIANS MUST DIE!!” cultists never fail to jump on any Anti-Russian conspiracy they can latch on to.

The Coronavirus is a CHINESE biological weapon, not Russian. It is CHINA who is using this virus as a biological weapon, not Russia.

China is our most dangerous enemy but, yet, the same Anti-Russian cultists never utter a disparaging word against them. It’s always “Russia, Russia, RUSSIA!!!” to them.

I agree with you about RFE and VOA being Leftist/Globalist Propaganda. Just earlier tonight, I watched a “The US has a duty to arm Ukraine” propaganda video. The source? VOA.

Sadly, I don’t doubt the story about the so-called brothel.

[NorseViking]

Brothel story:

The original:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yYlHsZAj2eM

Ukrainian (particularly anti-Christian) propaganda:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pvdVF11yeJI

Note the officer speaking at 1:06 in the original video and at 0:46 in the Ukrainian fake. The footage is the same but the voice is changed. In the original version it is a usual stuff police says to reporters and in the Ukrainian one someone else is talking and as if the action was in the church, the sisters were hookers and the priest a pimp.
These bastards has also put a stall with sex toys and made in look like a church kiosk selling candles and icons.

Bottom line is nothing coming from Ukraine is to be trusted. All their journalists are low quality propagandists.

You might find dozens of such examples.

[Zhang Fei]

[Thank you for inserting some reality and rationality in this thread.]

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NorseViking is inserting reality and rationality by exhorting us to disbelieve our lying eyes, which see Russia doing yet another iteration of what Russians do best - making Uncle Sam out to be the principal source of evil in the modern world?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Infektion

[NorseViking]

What make you distrust my evaluation of the video? Have you watched the original and not RFE compilation? IMHO one needs a complete lack of sense of irony and no more than 40 IQ points to take it serious.
That’s how RFE sees its patients... err viewers.

[MadMax, the Grinning Reaper]

Haven’t heard about the Council for the National Interest in a long time. Marxist fake writer Mark Lane (Conversations with Americans) joined them in the late 80’s or early 90’s as a writer. He showed off his anti-Semitic and anti-Israel bias in his articles.

Ray McGovern - absolutely nuts, but a very convincing speaker. Heard him back in the 80’s when he created the anti-intelligence group (or one of several anti-intelligence groups) roughly entitled (Association? of Former Intelligence Officers Opposed to ***). One of his favorite buddies was a CIA analyst named David? Michaels? if I recall correctly. Hardcore Left but dumb as a doorstop.
Don’t have my files available at the moment so I’m probably off on the years and correct spelling of names.

McGovern was in contact with Morton Halperin (IPS, George Soros’ Open Society Institute (OSI), and a couple of mixed communist fronts from the 70’s (Campaign to Stop Government Spying/Campaign for Political Rights), possibly including the Committee for Public Justice (led by old Red hag Lillian Hellman). also the Center for National Security Studies (CNSS), led by Halperin and IPSer/OSI Robert Bob Borosage who is still around, among others. Funded by the heavily CPUSA infiltrated Fund for Peace and the ACLU.

McGovern might have been associated with Phillip Agee’s “Covert Action Information Bulletin”. You would need to do a database research for confirmation. See if www.keywiki.org or www>DiscoverTheNetwork.org had any info.

Some of this is found in James Tyson’s good book “Target America: The Influence of Communist Propaganda on U.S. Media”, James L. Tyson, preface by Reed Irvine (Accuracy in Media). Regnery Gateway publishers, 1981, ppb edition.`

[GOPJ]

Does this have the feel of a very faint war drum starting?