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Wuhan Coronavirus Looks Increasingly Like a Pandemic, Experts Say
New York Times ^ | Feb 3, 2020 | Donald G. McNeil jr

Posted on 02/02/2020 8:44:49 PM PST by 11th_VA

The Wuhan coronavirus spreading from China is now likely to become a pandemic that circles the globe, according to many of the world’s leading infectious disease experts.

The prospect is daunting. A pandemic — an ongoing epidemic on two or more continents — may well have global consequences, despite the extraordinary travel restrictions and quarantines now imposed by China and other countries, including the United States.

Scientists do not yet know how lethal the new coronavirus is, however, so there is uncertainty about how much damage a pandemic might cause. But there is growing consensus that the pathogen is readily transmitted between humans.

The Wuhan coronavirus is spreading more like influenza, which is highly transmissible, than like its slow-moving viral cousins, SARS and MERS, scientists have found...

(Excerpt) Read more at google.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2019ncov; ccp; china; chinavirus; coronavirus; pandemic; wuhan
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To: CJ Wolf; RummyChick; Jane Long
This article at the Daily Mail?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7959643/First-Briton-contract-coronavirus-claims-shook-infection-hot-toddy-whisky.html

101 posted on 02/03/2020 7:59:28 AM PST by ConjunctionJunction
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To: ConjunctionJunction

From your link....

....He told The Sun: ‘They kept asking if I wanted a place on a flight out but I said no. I’ll stick it out here. I am proof coronavirus can be beaten.’

Mr Reed says his boss has told him that they will get back to work in two weeks, but he is not as certain.....

Geez....hope Mr Reed doesn’t catch another round. He also mentions that Wuhan is now a ghost town with groceries and medical masks running out of stock.


102 posted on 02/03/2020 8:11:22 AM PST by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.)
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To: Bon mots; 11th_VA; familyop; All

Anyone else listening to Secy Alex Azar’s interview, on Varney & C0?

He keeps saying....We don’t know, what we don’t know...

Huh???

And....

Stu asks...What are we doing to keep it out of America, and, is there something more that you think we should be doing?

Azar: Risk to any American is very low.
We’re taking appropriate, measured, layered steps to keep the American public safe.
Again...we’re seeing about a 3-4% fatality rate.....
Fatality rates, severity, transmissibility and incubation times are all levels of uncertainty....that we still have to get to the bottom of.

Okay, whew.

I feel much better, now,

/s


103 posted on 02/03/2020 8:27:56 AM PST by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.)
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To: Swordmaker

Well, we’ll see...China was also slow reacting and now it’s ride it out for them. I would have preferred to be cautious and watch it play out in China for a couple of weeks.


104 posted on 02/03/2020 8:30:17 AM PST by BobL (I eat at McDonald's and shop at Walmart - I just don't tell anyone.)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Yipers, we need all us FReepers to remain strong (and alive)1


105 posted on 02/03/2020 8:36:54 AM PST by BobL (I eat at McDonald's and shop at Walmart - I just don't tell anyone.)
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To: palmer

“Expert opinion is that those deaths were preventable”

If the 1918 deaths were from secondary bacterial pneumonia as that study suggests there weren’t a lot of options for treatment, it would be another 10 years before penicillin was discovered. But a similar outbreak today could be dealt with.


106 posted on 02/03/2020 8:47:43 AM PST by Pelham (RIP California, killed by massive immigration)
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To: GulfMan
we would know it. Clinics and doctor's offices routinely check for flu. If it wasn't the flu and the syptoms were bad, they whould be investigating.

The flu may be bad from a total number of cases, I'm not sure. But from a percent of flu cases hospitalized, it's moderate.


107 posted on 02/03/2020 8:50:36 AM PST by DannyTN
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To: Pelham

“get ugly early” I’ve done that at a bar or two. Or was it “Go ugly early?”


108 posted on 02/03/2020 9:37:46 AM PST by ebshumidors
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To: Jane Long

3% death rate, but what is the infection rate?

If it infects 50% of the people in China and 3% of them die, that’s over 20 million dead in China alone.

If it infects 25% of the population and 3% die, it’s 10 million dead in China alone.

All from somebody’s stupid mistake in a germ lab.


109 posted on 02/03/2020 10:00:29 AM PST by Bon mots
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To: Jane Long

Comparison with other viruses:
For comparison, the case fatality rate with seasonal flu is less than 0.01% (1 death per every 10,000 cases).
Mortality rate for SARS was 10%, and for MERS 34%.

They didn’t spread as fast as this CoronaVirus does.


110 posted on 02/03/2020 10:02:50 AM PST by Bon mots
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To: Bon mots

3% death rate, but what is the infection rate?


Secy Azar said that is, currently, an unknown.


111 posted on 02/03/2020 10:05:28 AM PST by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.)
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To: ExSES

Where are the materials for antibiotics sourced from? Did I hear China and India?

How much is in-transit in the distribution pipeline? What reserves are already warehoused in the country?

How long to source materials and set up an alternative manufacture of the needed antibiotics within the country?


112 posted on 02/03/2020 10:17:31 AM PST by Ozark Tom
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To: Ozark Tom

Antibiotics aren’t used for viruses.


113 posted on 02/03/2020 10:24:28 AM PST by AppyPappy (How many fingers am I holding up, Winston?)
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To: semaj

There is speculation of a live test of a method to inoculate the public from a disease threat, an immunization trial gone bad because the delivery package (virus) went rogue, resultant in an unforeseen spreading infection.


114 posted on 02/03/2020 10:43:50 AM PST by Ozark Tom
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To: AppyPappy

Over fifty percent of patients who do die after contracting a primary viral infection, actually succumb to a secondary bacterial infection. The body’s resources are diverted to fighting a virus, providing an open field for bacterium to run free. That is the reason antibiotics are often crucial in treating a seriously ill patient suffering from a virus.

https://www.healio.com/pediatrics/news/print/infectious-diseases-in-children/%7Be4a86c7f-bf32-4c09-ac8e-f310d2a1afa9%7D/secondary-bacterial-infections-common-with-viruses


115 posted on 02/03/2020 11:05:15 AM PST by Ozark Tom
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To: ExSES

As one who lost a Grandfather and two Granduncles to the Spanish Flu..., I would only point out that it’s occurrence was prior to the advent of antibiotics.

As one who lost an uncle and all most my dad, antibiotics would not have worked then, in between and now against any virus.

Read my tagline re what happens today if you get a bad viral infection.


116 posted on 02/03/2020 11:36:28 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Most so called Cures for most viruses are imaginary. It has been ride it out, to survive or die.)
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To: cba123

“Gonna get sick of dried soup, but we have a small stove with a gas unit, for an emergency.”

There are all types of canned beans, veggies, fruits and tuna/salmon, soups and other meats in small cans which don’t need refrigeration, and they are a great size for 2 people to eat a single meal often with 0 leftovers to throw away, due to no refrigeration. Cooked and dried Bacon bits in small size plastic bags have great dating.

Butter and honey can stay at room temp in jars or containers on your kitchen table. Hersey Chocolate Syrup can stay on the same table.


117 posted on 02/03/2020 11:54:30 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Most so called Cures for most viruses are imaginary. It has been ride it out, to survive or die.)
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To: sauropod

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118 posted on 02/03/2020 1:37:11 PM PST by sauropod (If women are upset at TrumpÂ’s naughty words, who bought 80 million copies of 50 Shades of Grey?)
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To: 21twelve

Yeah, sounds pretty simple in this day and age. I figure there is a great temptation to suppress because of the billions of dollars in lost trade everyday if they said it lived 2 or 3 weeks out of body.


119 posted on 02/03/2020 3:29:01 PM PST by Karl Spooner
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To: LibWhacker

This made me laugh my head off. I know I shouldn’t find it funny. But it’s hilarious. God forgive me.


120 posted on 02/03/2020 3:33:27 PM PST by WashingtonSource
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