Posted on 02/02/2020 2:10:41 PM PST by janetjanet998
There are currently 16,768 confirmed cases worldwide, including 361 fatalities
They’ve said the tests aren’t reliable.
Shangai stocks down 8%.
Wow!
“The number of the testing kits for the novel #coronavirus has reached 773, 000 per day. The production capacity has recovered around 60 percent so far and the government will continue beefing up production going forward.” said Chinese MIIT spokesperson Tian Yulong.
https://twitter.com/PeoplesDailyapp/status/1224174327194501120
17,388 confirmed cases worldwide, including 362 fatalities.
183 cases outside China, 1 death
Geez. How many were tested last week (according to the ChiComs)?
Also... “recovered”? (Maybe just a poor translation / or choice of words?)
When will people learn to turn their cameras horizontal. Much easier to view.
2 week incubation. Late this week into next we should see second generation transmission. If it happens. Maybe the virus doesn’t like clean air.
2% Is the CFR. 2% of 180 is 3.6. So, we will get a twofer and catch up this week.
Yeah, we need new ,more info.
Americans’ idea of ‘personal space’, may be a significant factor in it’s spread here.
Other cultures seem to think they can come much closer to people than we do!
Just somethin that occurred to me.;
“Elbow room”!
It could matter: may be an exponential relation of asymptomatic transmission to distance.
I posted the below on previous live thread; am reposting it here, slightly revised. How does the US plan to handle potential cases, if 2019-nCoV starts infecting thousands here, and not make health care facilities primary contagion points? (Negative air pressure rooms needed, etc.?)
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The problem with making a hospital the 1st option for someone who thinks they have 2019-nCoV is that (esp. as panic increases) everybody with a sniffle would then be heading to the hospital. Call ahead, well, maybe, if the call volume does not overwhelm the hospitals’ ability to handle the incoming calls well.
Here in the US, generally one cannot go to their PCP (GP) without an appointment, and that appointment usually takes a few days to get in. With a significant fatality rate already - oh yeah, that’s the ticket. /s
So, then the option is the ER or a walk-in clinic. Maybe some ER’s can prevent respiratory illnesses’ spread once you have a bed(?), but I suspect the bigger problem is contagion in the waiting room. (ER’s already scare me on this point, and that’s just for Flu, etc.) Walk-in clinics are likely generally worse.
That leaves us with??? I’d say call your PCP / GP office and ask for direction. If this gets bad, maybe screening facilities will be set up / designated.
Can any of our health care pros weigh in? This issue needs to be addressed now. I already consider it a major problem with the Flu.
That’s not a bad point. However, I find it hard to believe some seem to be minimizing transmission on hard surfaces.
Hope you hear from our health care pros.
You’re pushing the envelope though. I’m a VA patient and wouldn’t bother them unless a cold won’t go away.
I expect in the US patients won’t crowd the ER until things were very bad indeed.
” turn their cameras horizontal”
I think it’s a cultural thing? But I agree, I prefer wide-screen, too.
Janet, thank you for these threads!
Question: do you consider it a hopeful sign that so far the cases reported outside China have not been fatal, aside from one person who I believe had pre-existing conditions? I haven’t looked at today’s stats yet but I was reassured by that fact yesterday. Of course, the 14-day incubation period is ending for our US cases. We are all anxious to see if it spreads exponentially here as in Wuhan.
It might be habit. Maybe people taking a pic or vid with a phone are imaging other people most often, so to maximize the image of person being “captured” on the display, the phone is vertical. Plus, in most uses the phone is vertical.
Anyone I can think of rotates the phone as needed for a pic or vid, but I do see many initially holding the phone vertically, and THEN rotating when they see inappropriate framing of the subject.
Like someone said, maybe the Chinese concocted this virus to kill off some old folks and help their pension problems.
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I have read something that theorizes that what’s happening in China may be due to the population being hyper sensitized due to issues with the previous SARS vaccine.
No clue if accurate or not, but would explain some of this if it was.
2.14738897
2.176417872
2.168821912
2.167182663
2.085184932
2.155996178
Above is the number of deaths per total cases (in percent) from the 28th to the 2nd. I’m almost positive that ALL of the numbers are fake - but especially the deaths.
No way that the death rate stays that constant unless somebody is fudging the numbers to make it look good.
Age range is changing. From older, male, and/or male pre-existing, to toddlers. In a reddit article of jan 24, a 36yo was claimed to be ‘the youngest’. The Malaysia cases are changing that: 22, then 11 and 2.
Malaysian man 22yo - Indian national (one report says 23yo) died 29Jan. From India, had moved to Malaysia 2 yrs ago. (caught the virus in Malaysia? did he visit China?)
Malaysia cases:
40yo man from Wuhan part of tour group who fell ill in Johor. Tour group traveled from Singapore to Johor.
66-yo man, Chinese national, fell ill in Singapore
65-yo woman, Chinese national, wife of 66yo, fell ill Kalua Lampur (Johor)
11-yo and 2-yo, Chinese nationals, grandsons of the above, fell ill Kalua Lampur (Johor)
https://news.yahoo.com/malaysia-confirms-first-cases-coronavirus-040224565.html
https://in.news.yahoo.com/tripura-man-dies-coronavirus-malaysia-claims-family-053715990.html
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