Posted on 02/02/2020 2:10:41 PM PST by janetjanet998
There are currently 16,768 confirmed cases worldwide, including 361 fatalities
17,486 confirmed cases worldwide, including 362 fatalities.
186 cases outside China , still 1 death in Philippines
Hubei province
(including Wuhan) 11,177cases .. 350deaths .. 1,223 serious, 478 critical
https://www.zerohedge.com/health/india-probe-wuhan-institute-virology
Comments have good info/links in them if you wade through all the icky stuff. Not as bad as the chans though...
Read about HEGAAS here:
“which uses insects as the vehicle for as horizontal environmental genetic alteration agents (HEGAAS) — revealed “an intention to develop a means of delivery of HEGAAs for offensive purposes (emphasis added).””
Remember those GMO mosquitos released to ‘control zika’?
Hmmmm
Update on US patients:
Maricopa Co, AZ - man, student ASU, “not severely ill”, isolation
Bay Area, CA - man, good condition, self-isolating
Los Angeles, CA - man, no details offered by hospital
Orange Co., CA - man, 50s, hospital isolation, good condition
San Benito, CA (so of Gilroy) - man, 57, not hospitalized
San Benito, CA - wife, 57, of man not hospitalized
Santa Clara Co., CA - woman, self-isolating
Chicago, IL - man, 60’s, hospital isolation, stable
Chicago, IL - wife of man, 60’s, hospital isolation, good condition
Boston, MA - man, 20s, hospital isolation
Original case: Washington - man, 30s, hospital isolation, good condition
11 U.S. cases are in Illinois, Washington, California, Arizona and Massachusetts. The CDC in total has 241 persons under investigation for coronavirus from 36 states. In addition to the 7 confirmed positive, 114 have tested negative.
https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/20200124/coronavirus-2020-outbreak-latest-updates
CDC to hold press conference on #nCoV2019/#2019nCoV #coronavirus at 11:30 am ET
Our son works in a suburban ER as an EMT. I asked a few days ago and all they'd been told so far was to ask incoming patients about recent travel to Asia. No additional PPE or other precautions. I hope that's being upgraded.
The ‘self isolating’ patients are disturbing.
The waste water treatment plants in those cities are probably loaded with this thing now.
361 deaths but how many recoveries?
361 deaths but how many recoveries?
https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6
and yet we have the Chinese saying it can live up to 5 days
NPR
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Infectious disease experts say viruses like the new coronavirus don’t survive long on surfaces — and there’s no evidence from similar outbreaks that anyone got infected by handling a package.
In other words, “it’s not going to be transported on a box.”
I don’t think there’s much to worry about wastewater if you have the right ‘antagonistic bacteria’ I guess?:
. Inactivation of coronaviruses in the test water was highly dependent on temperature, level of organic matter, and presence of antagonistic bacteria. The time required for the virus titer to decrease 99.9% (T99.9) shows that in tap water, coronaviruses are inactivated faster in water at 23°C (10days) than in water at 4°C (>100days). Coronaviruses die off rapidly in wastewater, with T99.9 values of between 2 and 4days. Poliovirus survived longer than coronaviruses in all test waters, except the 4°C tap water.
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/225390936_Survival_of_Coronaviruses_in_Water_and_Wastewater
so contaminated water follows the obvious - 4C water is just above freezing - coronaviruses love cold. But have a 10-day tolerance to 75degrees or 23c. China needs to boil all water.
Virus survival on paper or cardboard should depend on whether it is calendared or not. Possibly on chemicals in the paper, I would think.
There is considerable info. online regarding viruses on paper money*, and so on. Just do a web search, but be sure to read several solid sources, as quite a few articles are rather incomplete.
Basically, viruses do not do survive** well on porous surfaces.
*Dried mucus on top of the virus helps, at least with Swiss paper bills and some particular virus I don’t recall the name of. So, I would be leery of a sneezing Swiss bank teller handing out francs.
Well used paper currency gets softer and more porous, so, counter-intuitively, old beat up soiled looking paper money is likely safer than new currency - at least for viruses. But, who knows about bacteria.
**I’m kinda curious what “survival” actually means for something (virus) for which “is it alive?” can be reasonably debated. “Reproduction” alone may not qualify something as “alive”.
Note that infectious capability degrades faster than “survival”. How much faster is hard to find solid info on - maybe I did not search well or enough.
2-4 days is actually a long time.
That entire branch of sewer is contaminated now for those patients.
Do any animals live in that sewer that might be able to be infected with coronavirus?
Do some cities pipe that stuff straight to a holding pond? Is the waste water ‘aerosolized’ at any point deliberately or inadvertently (falling down into a tank or something similar?)
What about cities with aging infrascture that have sewer leaks all the time? And the workers who have to clean that up?
Nightmare situation if true.
Dunno. Maybe nobody really really wants to know how dirty money (or that box of mac’n’cheese at the grocery store) really is.
I assume it’s all filthy and contaminated. But I’m a howard hughes level germophobe.
as time goes forward, the actual mortality rate will become apparent
31jan d: 259 r: 243 n: 502 m: 51.6%
03feb d: 362 r: 530 n: 892 m: 40.6%
d: deaths
r: recoveries
n: total cases finalized (d + r)
m: mortality rate (d / n)
I don’t consider myself a germophobe. We evolved to deal with a few challenges and ordinarily, I don’t knock myself out sanitizing hands or other surfaces. This isn’t a typical situation though, and I’m assuming anything I touch outside of home is potentially infectious. Lots of handwashing going on, as well as sanitizing of cell phones, steering wheel, reading glasses, etc.
Quite a bit of this stuff is seemingly counter-intuitive, eh?
US CDC Confirms Second ‘Person-To-Person’ Transmission Of Coronavirus In US (new CA case)
CDC: Preparing As If Coronavirus Is ‘The Next Pandemic’
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