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Trump schools the Senate on the exercise of power
NBC "News" ^ | January 23, 2020 | By Jonathan Allen

Posted on 01/24/2020 12:46:24 PM PST by Oldeconomybuyer

The lesson of this impeachment so far for President Donald Trump and his successors is that there are major strategic and tactical advantages to simply refusing to send witnesses and documents to Congress.

Not only has the president benefited from blocking the evidence itself, but his defenders have argued - compellingly in the minds of some observers - that the House Democrats' case against him on both articles of impeachment is weaker because they did not wait to see if courts would compel testimony and the production of documents at issue.

But it's not clear that the president, who has said repeatedly that Article II of the Constitution gives him the authority to do "whatever I want," would abide by either a Senate vote to subpoena witnesses (from another Article I branch) or a Supreme Court ruling requiring their participation (from the Article III branch).

The Senate could find out quickly with a vote to compel testimony from a single witness - or the production of a single document - whether Trump is so convinced of the supremacy of his office that he would defy Congress in the midst of a trial over whether his use of power is so abusive that it represents a threat to the checks and balances fundamental to the functioning of the republic.

By any account, Trump has taken an unusually broad view of executive power for a modern president.

He has also shown a willingness to reject the authority granted to Congress when he has not been under threat of impeachment and removal from office, as he did when he chose to shift money appropriated by lawmakers for other purposes to build a border wall - a plan that is still caught up in the federal courts.

(Excerpt) Read more at nbcnews.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bias; dncpoliticalstooge; impeachment; jonathanallen; journalism; media

1 posted on 01/24/2020 12:46:24 PM PST by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Nothing But Crap.


2 posted on 01/24/2020 12:48:57 PM PST by pabianice
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

utter HS

The courts have found Executive Privilege both Constitutional and legit.

Obama was a great one to claim EP anytime he wanted to bury things....


3 posted on 01/24/2020 12:49:00 PM PST by ASOC (Having humility really means one is rarely humiliated)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

He is merely following in the footsteps of that trailblazer for the broad interpretation of executive power, BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA....mmmmmmm, mmmmmmm, mmmmmmm.


4 posted on 01/24/2020 12:51:06 PM PST by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

“has said repeatedly that Article II of the Constitution gives him the authority to do “whatever I want,” would abide by either a Senate vote to subpoena witnesses “

Pure lie. He said this once, and it was in regard to his unquestionable legal right to fire Comey or a special counsel anytime he pleased.


5 posted on 01/24/2020 12:51:45 PM PST by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Dear Fascist Clowns at NBC

The rule of law is not set aside because you hate a guy for winning an election. There is a clear path for the Democrat Fascist party to contest the Presidents action. It called the US Court system.

Why did you Democrat Fascists refuse to follow Due Process and the Rule of Law if your case was so compelling? Could it be cause you know full well you would be laughed out of court for this utter farce you staged?


6 posted on 01/24/2020 12:55:10 PM PST by MNJohnnie (They would have abandon leftism to achieve sanity. Freeper Olog-hai)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Wow dim/commie/msm desperation in full view:-)


7 posted on 01/24/2020 12:58:55 PM PST by Harpotoo (Being a socialist is a lot easier than having to WORK like the rest of US:-))
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
whether Trump is so convinced of the supremacy of his office that he would defy Congress


Who sponsors this pure crap? His office is not supreme, it is equal! Author of this crap isn't interested in the truth, only interested in writing agitprop.
8 posted on 01/24/2020 12:59:53 PM PST by The_Media_never_lie (Please, oh pretty please let Crazy Uncle Joe Biden be the nominee.)
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To: DesertRhino

You mean like “Stroke of the pen, Law of the land, Kinda cool” as a former resident of the White house said...


9 posted on 01/24/2020 1:01:08 PM PST by 100American (Knowledge is knowing how, Wisdom is knowing when)
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To: pabianice

These dumb SOBs are so stupid, it’s indescribable.

So, if three or four repubs vote for witnesses, Trump has them by the short hairs...by

1. Not allowing them, whereby they take it up with the SCOTUS, and let them wait for a response, and while they’re waiting then:
2. He’s allowed to call his witnesses, Schiff, Biden, whistle blower, Obama etc.

I listen to the democrats, at any point in these past couple days, and they sound like children...


10 posted on 01/24/2020 1:01:10 PM PST by nikos1121
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To: nikos1121

The way that would work out is that Trump would be denied any witnesses. Lindsey would join Mitt and his crew to shut down any that Trump would want.


11 posted on 01/24/2020 1:15:47 PM PST by damper99
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To: DesertRhino
Pollutico, February 2010:

...After he had been here about a month, we gave [Jonathan] Allen what we thought would be good news: We wanted him to join us as a regular staff writer, with some extra money to boot. But Allen had other ideas and told us, to our dismay, that he was thinking of leaving journalism. After some more discussion, it became clear he was dreaming not merely of an exit from journalism but of an entrance into a new career as a Capitol Hill [Democrat] political operative...

Lookit this! Jonathan Allen is STILL a Capitol Hill Democrat political operative, 10 years later!

12 posted on 01/24/2020 1:15:53 PM PST by kiryandil (Chris Wallace: Because someone has to drive the Clown Car)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer; All

These assholes continue to lie with impunity. BTW, who watches this crap on tv? I only hear about it from FR threads like this one.


13 posted on 01/24/2020 1:28:11 PM PST by Cobra64 (Common sense isnÂ’t common anymore.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

By any account, Trump has taken an unusually broad view of executive power for a modern president.


Totally insane. Every POTUS invokes executive privilege. How stupid does Fake News think their readers are?


14 posted on 01/24/2020 1:32:35 PM PST by lodi90
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
I just sent a note to NBC

“It appears ethics is a challenge at NBC. Are you and your kids still snorting coke?”

15 posted on 01/24/2020 1:35:25 PM PST by Cobra64 (Common sense isnÂ’t common anymore.)
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To: Cobra64

Now Fake News is crying wolf about a PTOUS invoking executive privilege? Hilarious. And of course Obama went way farther than that sending the CIA to spy on the Senate. Fake News has hit bottom and keeps digging.


16 posted on 01/24/2020 1:36:04 PM PST by lodi90
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Allen is a schmuck. If Fredo had a son......


17 posted on 01/24/2020 2:54:20 PM PST by EQAndyBuzz (Operation Chaos is in play. Repeat, Operation Chaos is in play)
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