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The 2020s Will Be the Decade of Deficit Doomsday
Reason ^ | January 10, 2020 | Eric Boehm

Posted on 01/20/2020 10:20:49 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

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To: dp0622
and I don’t remember any attempt at all at fiscal control in the mid 2010s

We didn't have the economy we have now in the mid 2010s. With the economy doing the best it's done in decades we should be paying down debt, not running it up to the tune of a trillion dollars a year or more. If the economy goes into a downturn you could see that deficit double or triple.

21 posted on 01/20/2020 11:21:56 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

The deficit is a major threat to American prosperity in the long term. Democrats and their Socialist handlers are an immediate danger to the survival of the United States as a free country. As much as I want the budget cut and balanced, that has to be deferred until our safety from these minions of pure evil is secured.


22 posted on 01/20/2020 11:24:08 AM PST by Pollster1 ("Governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed")
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To: Truthoverpower
Bottom line: money is not real

Yes! YOU get it, my FRiend!


23 posted on 01/20/2020 11:45:42 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer)
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To: DoodleDawg

Brother I’m with you.

It’s all fiscal insanity.

What I don’t get it that Japan is operating at 200 percent plus debt to GDP while we’re “only’ at 100.

When does it really start to destroy a country?

300 percent? 400 percent?


24 posted on 01/20/2020 11:51:19 AM PST by dp0622 (Radicals, racists Don't point fingers at me I'm a small town white boy Just tryin' to make ends meet)
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To: Robert357
So, if one believes such a future what is one to do?

Invest in Vangaard's TIPS fund. Treasury Inflation-Protected Securities. VAIPX and VIPSX.

25 posted on 01/20/2020 12:14:42 PM PST by aimhigh (THIS is His commandment . . . . 1 John 3:23)
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To: Pollster1

True, that.


26 posted on 01/20/2020 12:52:53 PM PST by Paul R. (The Lib / Socialist goal: Total control of nothing left worth controlling.)
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To: dp0622

Well, the South China Morning Post says China’s debt to GDP is 300 percent.

https://amp.scmp.com/economy/china-economy/article/3018991/chinas-total-debt-rises-over-300-cent-gdp-beijing-loosens

So, the 3 largest economies all have debt to GDP ratio in the 3 digits. But it looks like we, the #1 economy in terms of GDP us relatively better than #2 abd #3 in terms of debt.


27 posted on 01/20/2020 1:12:18 PM PST by SeekAndFind (look at Michigan, it will)
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To: dp0622

That’s an extremely good question.

I’m no expert, but, I’d think that other factors would be GDP growth, the amount of private debt, the amount of debt going to “investments” (actual useful infrastructure), etc.), and, debt to assets ratio. Other FReepers may think of more factors.


28 posted on 01/20/2020 1:16:13 PM PST by Paul R. (The Lib / Socialist goal: Total control of nothing left worth controlling.)
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To: dp0622

365% TCMDO to GDP is when we reach the tipping point. We went there in 2007/2008. The PIIGS all hit it around the same time.


29 posted on 01/20/2020 1:35:01 PM PST by TheWriterTX (Trust not in earthly princes....)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

The problem is Congress. I seem to recall the swamp that is the GOP refused right from the start to hand Trump a credible budget. In fact to get his signature corporate tax cuts he had to compromise with the swill they gave him. They might have his back now, but they are still the swamp, who didn’t even have an Obama care repeal ready. They couldn’t even manage to defund Planned Parenthood when they had the chance. Theses guys are slaves to the status quo and in some senses marginally better than Democrats. Trump has had to drag their sorry asses across the finish line time and time again.


30 posted on 01/20/2020 1:35:58 PM PST by Sam Gamgee
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To: Robert357

Thing is betting against the United States is hazardous.


31 posted on 01/20/2020 1:36:58 PM PST by Sam Gamgee
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To: dp0622

I was curious about Japan so looked at some graphs. Since 1995 US per capita GDP has gone up from $40,000 to $60,000. Japan has stayed the SAME at around $38,000! The debt might not be solely to blame, but PER CAPITA takes into account Japan’s population loss, so its a bad number.


32 posted on 01/20/2020 1:38:40 PM PST by Sam Gamgee
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

The entire government resigns. All debts cancelled. New governments form. It’s the only way now.


33 posted on 01/20/2020 5:17:37 PM PST by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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To: dp0622

Re: “What I don’t get is that Japan is operating at 200 percent plus debt to GDP while we’re “only’ at 100.”

One factor is that Japan has a (relatively) higher savings rate, and a majority of people “invest” most or all of their savings in Japanese sovereign bonds.

Do you know what the interest rate on the Japanese 10 Year Bond is paying?

(Minus!) -0.006%

In other words, a majority of Japanese “savers” absorb the entire inflation rate (less than 1%), and they PAY the Japanese government a tiny percentage to hold their money!


34 posted on 01/20/2020 5:52:46 PM PST by zeestephen
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