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To: odawg
"In other words, presidential elections have been just a charade since the very beginning and the original limitation of voters to white people who owned land was a rope-a-dope and all the campaigning by the candidates for president was just for fun and no candidate would ever stoop to buying off electors instead of trying to get votes. If that were true, the writers of the Constitution replaced one tyranny for another and the American Revolution was a hoax."

No. Completely wrong.

There was no hoax. The system designed into the Constitution is a representative republic. There never was any intent for the popular election of anyone but Representatives in the House.

Senators were selected by each state legislature to represent the state in the Senate.

The President was selected by a panel of electors, appointed by the state legislatures.

Remember, the federal government is a union of States. It was formed by the states and is supposed to be controlled by the states. The idea that Senators and Presidents are supposed to be popularly elected came later.

"Why isn’t it that you can’t find anywhere in history the idea electors were free to choose whoever the hell they wanted to was ever prevalent?"

I think you presume too much, and you substitute your personal notions of what makes sense to you in place of the law. There is no difficulty at all in finding the historical basis for what I've described. You just have to look.

88 posted on 01/19/2020 11:45:09 AM PST by mlo
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To: mlo

“I think you presume too much, and you substitute your personal notions of what makes sense to you...”

No, they are not my personal notions; they are the way the president of the United States has been elected for hundreds of years.

From Wikipedia:

“The 1824 presidential election was the first election in American history in which the popular vote mattered, as 18 states chose presidential electors by popular vote in 1824 (six states still left the choice up to their state legislatures).”

So you see, in 1824, 18 states chose presidential electors by popular vote. Unfortunately, they did not have you around to explain the Constitution to them.

People like you who spout off such nonsense are evidently beyond any ability to reason.


90 posted on 01/19/2020 4:16:28 PM PST by odawg
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