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Should Public Transit Be Free? More Cities Say, Why Not? Mayors are considering waiving fares for bus service as a way to fight inequality and lower carbon emissions. Critics wonder who will pay for it.
New York Times ^ | January 14, 2020 | Ellen Barry

Posted on 01/15/2020 11:51:56 AM PST by karpov

LAWRENCE, Mass. — Dionisia Ramos gets on the 37 bus twice a day, rooting through her handbag to dig out the fare and drop it into the slot, so it came as shock several months ago when the bus driver reached out his hand to stop her.

“You don’t have to pay,” he said. “It’s free for the next two years.”

Ms. Ramos had never heard of anything like this: Someone was paying her bus fare? At 55, she lives on a monthly unemployment check for $235. So saving $2.40 a day, for her trip to and from community college, past the hulking mills of Lawrence’s industrial past — that meant something.

Since a pilot program began in September, use of the buses has grown by 24 percent, and the only criticism Ms. Ramos has of the city’s experiment with fare-free transit is that it’s not permanent.

“Transportation should be free,” she said. “It’s a basic need. It’s not a luxury.”

That argument is bubbling up in lots of places these days, as city officials cast about for big ideas to combat inequality and reduce carbon emissions. Some among them cast transportation as a pure public good, more like policing and less like toll roads.

The City Council in Worcester, Massachusetts’ second-largest city, expressed strong support last week for waiving fares for its buses, a move that would cost between $2 and $3 million a year in lost fares. And fare-free transit is the splashiest policy recommendation of Michelle Wu, a Boston City Council member who is expected by many to run for mayor in 2021.

Larger experiments are underway in other parts of the country. The cities of Kansas City, Mo., and Olympia, Wash., both declared that their buses would become fare-free this year.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; US: Massachusetts
KEYWORDS: buses; masstransit
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Leftists believe that low-income people should not have to pay for anything.

When a business has falling sales, it exits. Government bills the taxpayer for a service that few people are willing to pay for. A service like Uber pool actually takes you where you want to go and is probably responsible for some of the decreased bus ridership.

Making something free, for example Starbucks bathrooms, attracts vagrants and therefore repels people who don't want to be around vagrants.

1 posted on 01/15/2020 11:51:56 AM PST by karpov
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Critics wonder who will pay for it.

DUH! Taxpayers of course!


2 posted on 01/15/2020 11:54:07 AM PST by rfreedom4u (The root word of vigilante is vigilant!)
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As bad as they are to ride now, they’ll be even worse & more dangerous if no one has to pay.


3 posted on 01/15/2020 11:54:41 AM PST by nuconvert ( Warning: Accused of being a radical militarist. Approach with caution.)
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“Making something free, for example Starbucks bathrooms, attracts vagrants...”

Well, public transit is already lousy with vagrants, so it’s probably not going to get much worse on that count.


4 posted on 01/15/2020 11:56:46 AM PST by Boogieman
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Who will pay for it? The middle-class as always.


5 posted on 01/15/2020 11:58:11 AM PST by DivineMomentsOfTruth ("There is but one straight course, and that is to seek truth and pursue it steadily." -GW)
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Free transportation is a right given by God. It’s called your feet.

If you don’t have feet or yours don’t work, we can talk.


6 posted on 01/15/2020 11:58:25 AM PST by Vermont Lt
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Put posters on the outside and ads on the inside. Let ADVERTISERS pay for it.

No. Our city has a dumb advertising ban on public transport and PSAs with ugly drug, litter, racism messages. So it isn’t about a more beautiful city.


7 posted on 01/15/2020 11:59:18 AM PST by a fool in paradise (Decade of decision for America)
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To: rfreedom4u

Free cell phones, free housing, free cable, free college, free healthcare.


8 posted on 01/15/2020 11:59:38 AM PST by notaliberal (St. Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle,)
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I did a quick check on the local public transport's budget summary. About 10% of their revenue comes from fares. Most of the rest comes from local taxes and federal grants.
9 posted on 01/15/2020 11:59:59 AM PST by KarlInOhio (Cutest internet video: Charlie bit my finger. Creepiest internet video: Joe Biden bit my finger.)
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On we go down the road to socialism, communism, and destruction. Kiss America goodbye.


10 posted on 01/15/2020 12:01:12 PM PST by cabbieguy ("I suppose it will all make sense when we grow up"can't be counted)
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To: nuconvert

Just about every city in modern Asia has clean, on time public transit because it costs money to ride. It may not be expensive, but everyone pays something. I’ve used such systems in Seoul, Tokyo, Singapore, Osaka, Kobe and elsewhere. Anyone who tries to use them as toilets or sleeping lounges would be taken off so fast that your head would spin.


11 posted on 01/15/2020 12:02:51 PM PST by Vigilanteman (The politicized state destroys aspects of civil society, human kindness and private charity.)
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And everyone knows that riding a bus with drunks that $hit their pants will help liberals save the erf.


12 posted on 01/15/2020 12:03:47 PM PST by Beagle8U (Did Eric Ciaramella kill Epstein? He didn't kill himself.)
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Make everything free. A luxury home. A sports car. Restaurant food. Pocket money. No need to work.

What will happen if that is implemented?

No one works. Everyone gets the free things. Since no one is working, no one wants to work in construction to build a house. No one wants to work in a factory to build sports cars. No one wants to work in a hot kitchen while being yelled at.

So there are no more luxury homes, cars, free meals or cash. The plan falls apart because no one wants to work in government to run the free income redistribution system.

The plan fails.


13 posted on 01/15/2020 12:04:13 PM PST by I want the USA back (If free speech is taken away, dumb and silent we are led, like sheep to the slaughter: G Washington)
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“X should be free, it’s a basic need. It’s not a luxury.”

THAT line of thinking is what will ultimately take this country down.


14 posted on 01/15/2020 12:04:37 PM PST by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer)
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To: rfreedom4u

I’m concerned that Warren gets elected and denudes all our money trees.


15 posted on 01/15/2020 12:05:11 PM PST by hardspunned
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Cincinnati was trying that with their street car named “misfire” and still had a hard time getting riders. I think even the homeless refuse use it for shelter.


16 posted on 01/15/2020 12:05:13 PM PST by bleach (If I agreed with you, we would both be wrong.)
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"Critics wonder who will pay for it."

Avoiding turning left turned into a cost-cutting advantage for UPS.

"They found the UPS approach saved gas but took a bit longer” —Why UPS Trucks Don't Turn Left

Even if this cost-cutting approach doesn’t work for all public transit systems, some routes may be cheaper to operate.

17 posted on 01/15/2020 12:06:47 PM PST by Amendment10
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The REAL problem with transit in this area is that their unionized workers can retire with a gold-plated pension and benefit package in their early 50’s.

Far more of their revenues go to paying people who no longer work for them to sit home than to transporting low-income people around town.


18 posted on 01/15/2020 12:07:29 PM PST by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer)
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"Free cell phones, free housing, free cable, free college, free healthcare."

Free land-line phones, free food (SNAP), free welfare, free monthly stipend (being suggested), free transport to voting booths. Sure I'm missing some.

19 posted on 01/15/2020 12:07:53 PM PST by A Navy Vet (I'm not Islamophobic - I'm Islamonauseous. Also LGBTQxyz nauseous.)
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Instant free mobile hotels.

Warm, dry, changing scenery, 2-4 seat “bed”.
Increased loitering at “last stop”.


20 posted on 01/15/2020 12:10:42 PM PST by ctdonath2 (Democrats oppose democracy.)
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