Posted on 01/14/2020 12:01:09 PM PST by MeganC
[[I am waiting on Windows 11 to come out that will fix everything.....]]
After you give them your social security number, bank account, off shore holdings account numbers- and birth certificate lol
Gotta know a bit more to run LINUX - show me a totally secure computer and I’ll show you a computer that’s disconnected from the Net, has both networking and WiFi turned off and needs a password for every action...
“I searched and complicated scripts are proffered for Mint to do this, but it should be easy (like it is in Windows).”
And it is. :)
As you know it is in two stages, first suspend, and then hibernate per how you have your settings and time outs in your power settings just like windows. I use mine like a desktop and always have my power supply and mouse plugged in so I had it set to “never” for both. But I just went and reset to check and make sure I was not steering you wrong here.
When it goes to suspend (screen off but power still on) you can wiggle your mouse around, or if it is on, brush the touch pad and it will wake. If it is in full hibernate when it is powered down and the power button is flashing, just hit the “esc” button and it should wake up without needing to hit the power button. :)
“Gotta know a bit more to run LINUX “
Not anymore... How long has it been since you played with it? They have come a long way and now provide a full featured GUI OS. This mint cinnamon is a full point and click GUI like windows 7. And all the apps and features are all GUI like windows. Anyone familiar with Win XP or win 7 can jump right on and fly and probably never even need to use the command line terminal.
“show me a totally secure computer and I’ll show you a computer that’s disconnected from the Net, has both networking and WiFi turned off and needs a password for every action...”
True, of course nothing is completely secure if someone truly wants to work REAL hard to get at it. But the fact is, Linux does indeed need a pass key to do anything that will be making any changes including downloading and installing. Even better and unlike windows, the system files and Kernel are in their own isolated partition that will allow no changes at all without first rooting it with the passkey. There is absolutely no way to gain access and affect these files without the key. It is about as secure as you can get and far more secure than windows.
Before you can judge it you need to actually use it for yourself to understand the new current capabilities better. You would be pleasantly surprised at what it has now evolved into.
I highly recommend this version as the best full boxed package for a new user coming from Windows. This is 64bit, but the same current up to date version is available for older 32bit machines.
https://linuxmint.com/edition.php?id=246
Thanks - been thinking of trying Mint for a while but haven’t made the leap - I’m not a SysAdmin type but did teach a bit of Solaris some years ago so I’m not as handicapped as some might be.
My privilege, Please do and give me a holler back about what you think. I found there are two kinds of linux users. There are the very techy type who go straight for building their own custom hotrod from the bare bones frame up. And there are those who have very minimal skills and knowledge and want to just get the whole car delivered ready to turn the key and go.
They techy type always seem to recommend a bare bones linux version which will indeed need some extra effort, work, and skills to make it as you like, such as custom partitioning. This version I always recommend is an easy full boxed GUI turn key package with all the most popular apps ready to go. The included installer is slicker than snot and creates all the partitions for it’s self as needed.
I first installed it dual boot (alongside) over my Windows 7 so that I had both as needed. This worked great because I did not need to save all my windows files off from the windows partition before installing the Mint. Once installed over windows, when booted up in the mint, it will let you go grab all the files from the windows partition and move these copy and paste or drag and drop over to the corresponding mint folders and home partition. :)
Sounds like you have it covered with your skills to give it a shot, but if you run into any quirks or snags please do not hesitate to PM me anytime. Like I say, I think you will be pleasantly surprised from what most visualize. :)
Important note... Please stick with that Mint 18.3 cinnamon version for current. They still have some kinks to work out of the newer 19.x versions. :)
If i hit any key it usually wakes up, but sometimes that did not work, and so like some other users , I wanted to be able to shortcut a command to wake it up.
Before I set mine to Never, the Esc key worked every time for me?
I would have to find which command would be the correct one, but you can as you know create and assign your own key short cuts in the system settings/keboard. Having the correct command to put in there is the important thing.
That depends on what they are satisfied with, and or that all goes as it should. And there are many things recommend for a new Mint install: https://averagelinuxuser.com/15-things-to-do-after-installing-linux-mint/
Note however that installing certain propriety patented drivers and or codecs can be illegal, and is at least in the case of the latter in America. since Linux does not pay for the license to use them. Thus I did not install them, yet since all media is via the FF browser, then it has been serving the user fine so far.
. But the fact is, Linux does indeed need a pass key to do anything that will be making any changes including downloading and installing.
I know, rather than a simple prompt to mouse click, I must type the pword too often. Thus i chose a 2 digit pword, which kind of defeats the purpose of the extreme security.
Even better and unlike windows, the system files and Kernel are in their own isolated partition that will allow no changes at all without first rooting it with the passkey. There is absolutely no way to gain access and affect these files without the key. It is about as secure as you can get and far more secure than windows.
In Windows you must give permission also, by via a simple prompt to mouse click. In 20 years of extensive use with Windows, from 3.1 to 10, only 2 viruses (years ago) and easily dealt with, thanks be tp God. Pray and press, and be careful where you "drive."
I know that, and did so for Sleep, but there is none listed for Resume/Wake up, and it I was looking for a simpler coding solution than what I saw.
https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?t=277163
http://www.bernaerts-nicolas.fr/linux/74-ubuntu/220-ubuntu-resume-usb-hid
Note that in some morder BIOS there are options to control what can Wake up the PC but this is not the case here.
But I am still getting a lot for the money:)
“Note however that installing certain propriety patented drivers and or codecs can be illegal, and is at least in the case of the latter in America. since Linux does not pay for the license to use them. Thus I did not install them, yet since all media is via the FF browser, then it has been serving the user fine so far. “
Couple points about this concept. First, just setting your DVR to record a TV movie for you while you are at work is also illegal and very comparable to this situation. While there is proprietary software and licences to consider if they got sticky about it, all these proprietary sources directly and willingly update their own apps to all linux system users without any complaints or even warnings.
They even build all the apps and updates for their software compatible with and ported for linux themselves and offer these without even a notice of restriction or license agreements. So... If this was a huge problem for the proprietary sources all they have to do is just stop providing these ported for linux, or require a purchase to download or update, or just shut them off to linux users altogether.
To continue supplying and supporting the linux community and systems themselves as the owners without any restrictions displays the legal permission and willingness to allow it to be used. If they do never enforce it then they have legally allowed it because of no actions taken on their own part to object to it in any form or fashion.
Again... Try the Esc key. Just one key to wake it up, seriously it has always worked for me and I think you might be making this more complicated than it needs to be. :)
Now if you want to have it come up without the login screen and go directly to the desktop, you can go enter the password in the auto login feature I linked you to once before. :)
(Sharing for other users interested here again)
Menu/settings/login window/users/automatic login/password/close window.
Wait... Are you using a wireless keyboard? If so I now see your issue. Because when it goes to hibernate it is going to also power down the radio. And normally you would WANT it to, for security reasons?
No. It is USB.
OK, let me try something here, mine is a laptop and I use that keyboard, but let me plug in a USB keyboard and see if the Esc key still works to wake it using the external board. It might not... Give me a bit... Multitasking again. :)
Will try the ESC key next time it does not respond. Meanwhile thanks for Menu/settings/login window/users/automatic login/password/close window.
However, under automatic login there is no option for password. I am there now.
I would just go straight to the Esc key first and not push anything else.
But with the automatic login. You should just be able to enter your password into the text field box below where it says “Automatic Login” in the “users” window and then close the windows out.
Next time I does not resume i will try it. But I am not the one who usually uses it. Thanks.
But with the automatic login. You should just be able to enter your password into the text field box below where it says “Automatic Login” in the “users” window and then close the windows out.
Nope, it is not there.
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What you have to do to nuke the sign in requirement from sleep resume is go to Screensaver and uncheck the lock settings.
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