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The College Wealth Premium Has Collapsed
The Atlantic ^ | 8 January 2020 | Annie Lowrey

Posted on 01/13/2020 3:59:56 AM PST by Erik Latranyi

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To: CodeToad

If I had the choice of hiring one who learned from an online course or a brick-and-mortar school, I choice the one from the physical school.


81 posted on 01/13/2020 2:09:20 PM PST by GingisK
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To: RedStateRocker

That is the reason anyone goes to any school, not just Harvard or Yale. Well, besides not want to have a pitiful online education.


82 posted on 01/13/2020 2:11:14 PM PST by GingisK
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To: GingisK

I have a policy to reject online degrees for many reasons.


83 posted on 01/13/2020 2:14:28 PM PST by CodeToad (Arm Up! They Have!)
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To: RedStateRocker
Just my opinion.

I'm whole heartedly with you on those reasons as well.

...a Christian who hasn’t had to defend their beliefs against intelligent and deeply read...

This is actually very important; and, should serve to neutralize people who worry about exposing students to the obvious crap at universities. Any student who succumbs to ideals that violate their faith might not have been parented well. My kids just fine in their heathen environments. Why, they even brought home terrific stories about their raging battles.

84 posted on 01/13/2020 2:18:09 PM PST by GingisK
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To: CodeToad

Indeed. One of the worst things is the lack of control over who actually takes the online tests.


85 posted on 01/13/2020 2:19:42 PM PST by GingisK
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To: GingisK

My daughter is now a chemist (PhD). When she was an undergrad she took linear algebra on-line. Later when she discovered she really knew very little linear algebra when compared to other sub-disciplines of math. She had two friends who likewise did math online. They took two semesters of calculus, later when it came to taking their thermodynamic class they were lost.


86 posted on 01/13/2020 2:20:18 PM PST by Reily
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To: GingisK

You appear to be nothing more than an apologist for the current, failing, over-priced system.

The process of education is in need of a major overhaul and people like you keep protecting the status quo.


87 posted on 01/13/2020 2:35:12 PM PST by Erik Latranyi (The Democratic Party is communism)
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To: Erik Latranyi

That’s because a) we have a horrible educational system that hurts the least bright the most, and b) the least bright are now being pushed through college with pretty much fake classes and degrees, because of the federal loan/grant bonanza incentivizing such.


88 posted on 01/13/2020 2:37:52 PM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: Erik Latranyi

I see you get your exercise by jumping to conclusions.


89 posted on 01/13/2020 2:40:18 PM PST by GingisK
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To: 9YearLurker

Maybe they are being pushed through that system by stupid parents rather than by federal loans. Maybe the universities make fake classes so that real ones can be occupied by higher achievers.


90 posted on 01/13/2020 2:43:38 PM PST by GingisK
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To: Erik Latranyi

I know this is just anecdotal - I barely made it through 9th grade - but have been making between $160k - $220k each of the last 10+ years... College would have been a waste of time...


91 posted on 01/13/2020 2:46:20 PM PST by dakine
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To: GingisK

Sure, the parents are glad to hear that their kids are going to college—on someone else’s dime. And you still have the best affirmative-action students at the highest levels of higher ed, similarly getting pushed through.


92 posted on 01/13/2020 2:50:24 PM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: GingisK

Here’s a message from someone who broke through the trance:

https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:6622296788487462912/


93 posted on 01/13/2020 2:52:19 PM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: GingisK

I have found far too many people, mostly Indians, that plagiarize. They pay to get a paper written. Ask them about their paper and they have no idea what’s in it.


94 posted on 01/13/2020 3:31:21 PM PST by CodeToad (Arm Up! They Have!)
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To: dakine

You undoubtedly made good with a sharp mind and an unstoppable attitude. Too bad you are the exception rather than the rule.


95 posted on 01/13/2020 4:15:15 PM PST by GingisK
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To: 9YearLurker

That is great! He is a self-made man with a flair for success. People can be quite potent if they have a can-do attitude and chase a dream that matches their talents.


96 posted on 01/13/2020 4:18:31 PM PST by GingisK
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To: Reily

Online classes are great for filling in missed opportunities and exploring possible interests. A PhD in chemistry is nothing to sneeze at.


97 posted on 01/13/2020 4:20:42 PM PST by GingisK
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To: GingisK

Ps 27:10
As steel sharpens steel, so one man sharpens another


98 posted on 01/13/2020 8:45:22 PM PST by RedStateRocker (Nuke Mecca. Deport all illegals. Abolish the DEA, IRS and ATF,.)
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To: GingisK

It depends.

Sometimes the online classes are great for brushing up or learning a new language or program.

I like the open courseware that MIT has because AI is fascinating to me, same thing with statistics and Game Theory. If I should have to interview ever again I need to keep my skills utterly current, but working full time and playing music in two bands professionally makes it very hard to go to classes.


99 posted on 01/14/2020 8:34:33 AM PST by RedStateRocker (Nuke Mecca. Deport all illegals. Abolish the DEA, IRS and ATF,.)
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To: RedStateRocker
Those courses are pretty good. Excellent, in fact. For learning new or supplemental topics they are the only way to go. I just wouldn't want to use them to obtain a degree without going to a physical school. I'm well past that need.

I can so clearly remember what it was like as a young student to sit all night in a restaurant or pub and discuss math/physics/computer science with my peers. Computer architecture discussions were down right exciting. Online schooling can never serve up euphoria like that.

100 posted on 01/14/2020 12:16:52 PM PST by GingisK
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