Posted on 01/13/2020 3:42:57 AM PST by Bruiser 10
LOL.
A ‘bint’?
I haven’t heard that term since I moved back from London in 1989.
Probably so he can become a preacher and then never have to work for a living again.
The USN and the Pentagon is telling you something is out there they can’t identify with their recent video releases and they are apparently studying these objects. Note, the Pentagon has never breathed a word about aliens or the occupants of these objects but that our pilots are encountering them. The objects in the videos clearly do maneuvers conventional aircraft cannot, and that would kill a human being if they were inside the objects making such violent maneuvers.
They are possibly Chinese/Russian craft, but that makes no sense to announce, that our current combat aircraft can’t come close to engaging, or they really don’t know what they are but they are here and in our skies.
You obviously don’t know many Pastors. The one’s I know work their rear ends off and for very little money.
That doesn’t make a better case.
NicknamedBob, we do not disagree. Its that fool, circlecity, that imagines the source of the odds he quotes is infallible. Bitter clinger and all that.
who cares what he says — any fool with common sense can see that he’s obviously been in his ivory tower over long
Don't you think a detail like that would have been covered in The Bible?
I like bitter clingers.
Well stated but in my case it seems being beaten over the head a Thousand Times is usually what make me learn.
I guess that’s acquired wisdom :)
Er, the Earth’s atmosphere affects the Whole Earth :)
It’s 100 times more dense on venus and will crush you like a bug.
Go try it out, I swear :)
And what the hell do i know? I never said I was right bout anything! :)
yes you are right but we are talking about things that effect the atmosphere and produces climate and weather.
Speaking of Venus before you get crushed, you will begin to dissolve in the sulfuric acid in the atmosphere but before you dissolve, you will be incinerated in the 800 degree temps.
Good grief!!
I didn’t know that about Venus.
And believe me, no one is going by my observations when they decide whether there is life elsewhere.
I’m just a mope that posts on FR for laughs and has an average IQ and thinks beer and pizza are two food groups :)
Have a good one FRiend
Sorry. No, I don’t. I was raised Roman Catholic. “the creation stories were often allegorized, interpreted in ways so as to prefigure Christ, or interpreted through the lens of the science of the day (or all three!)”
Not too sure how we got onto the subject of Venus, but while we’re here I’d like to clear up some misconceptions about how Venus can play a part in our future.
Yes there are clouds of sulfuric acid, and crushing pressure and insane temperatures on the surface. But the way to think about Venus is that it is an ocean planet, with carbon dioxide standing in for water in that case.
Most of Earth is covered by ocean, and if you were standing on the “surface” that is covered by that water, you would be crushed immediately. Think of Venus the same way; you need to float at the proper atmospheric pressure. On Earth we call that “sea level”, on Venus it’s about fifty kilometers above the “surface”. (or thirty-five miles, if you prefer).
That gives you an idea of just how thick the atmosphere on Venus is. Thirty-five miles above the surface on Earth is pretty close to being space. The same distance on Venus still leaves you with a whole sky above you (mostly enough to give you protection from meteorites and radiation).
If you had a “boat” that floated on that “ocean” of carbon dioxide, you could enjoy a normal pressure atmosphere, with normal (Earthlike) temperatures, normal gravity, and plenty of solar radiation for your solar panels.
But since the carbon dioxide is a gas and not a liquid, you would need a balloon or blimp to float in it and not a boat.
Here’s the best part; carbon dioxide is a heavy gas, heavier than hydrogen and helium of course, but also heavier than oxygen and nitrogen. That’s right, the atmosphere of Venus is heavier than air! Ordinary air that you can breathe is a lifting gas there!
You won’t need a boat; you’ll need a greenhouse! And in your greenhouse you can grow flowers, vegetables, grass, and trees.
These plants can convert the carbon dioxide into more plants, food, flowers, and more oxyygen to breathe. (Nitrogen is already plentiful in the atmosphere of Venus.)
So basically all you need is the kind of plastic that resists sulfuric acid, (similar to Teflon), and some soil for your plants, and some solar panels, and a way to make carbon stuff out of carbon dioxide, and stuff like that.
Venus could be a great vacation resort. (And that doesn’t even go into the fact that gravity there is just a shade under what you’re used to on Earth. You lose weight just arriving there!}
Book your passage right away! It’s closer than Mars!
great as long as one doesn’t mind the 800 degree heat ...
That’s fascinating, the comparison to being at the bottom of the ocean.
We could build a floating city in the sky.
it worked on Star Wars :)
Actually, that would be the plan. Just need to figure out how to make your own dirt.
I wonder what kind of technology would be needed to build a floating city.
If you’re saying that we could breathe up there out in the open perfectly fine, then it wouldn’t need to be an enclosed orbiting behemoth.
Would be interesting to see in a thousand years :)
Sorry, not at all what I was trying to say. Settlements at Venus would need to be enclosed, to keep out the carbon dioxide and the sulfuric acid. But the barrier merely needs to be chemically durable, not physically. A simple plastic curtain could suffice in theory, because the atmospheric pressures would be equal for each side.
Also, as described previously, the plants with which we surround ourselves there, just as on Mars, should serve the purpose of providing the oxygen we need, while the more neutral Nitrogen can be physically separated from the atmosphere. Venus has five atmosphere's worth of Nitrogen, so I rather expect that such procedures will become an industrial process there. I have made the prediction that fire extinguishers in Venus habitats will be filled with nitrogen rather than carbon dioxide.
Mining operations on the planet's surface may with difficulty be conducted with remote-control robots, or with crude dredging devices which drop down and then rise up again before the heat can disable them. A primitive such operation could include electric-motor airplanes sent out to collect nitrogen-filled balloon buckets carrying dirt collected from the surface.
Further, the orbital space around Venus could become busy, with rotating habitats with long tentacles designed to reach down into the upper atmosphere to pluck high-flying cargo craft and either bring them in to the station or fling them elsewhere in the inner system. Momentum-transfer tethers will be a very useful technology in the decades to come.
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