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Because California is so large, with such a huge economy and so many people, the state's dominance generally steers industry and other governments in the direction it wants. No company that does business with state governments can afford to ignore what California is doing.

If California doesn't think that Washington should be setting national policy, why be a member of the union of states in the first place? Its $3 trillion economy would be ranked 5th in the world if the Golden State was a sovereign nation. Maybe it's time that California thought about being a separate country.

They act like it anyway.

1 posted on 01/10/2020 7:28:05 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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Is California bankrupt if you factor in all of the civil service pensions debt?


36 posted on 01/10/2020 8:51:10 AM PST by oldbrowser (The government did not create the people. The people created the government)
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Why would they want to secede..? They would collapse without the rest of the U.S.
They will anyhow..but in the mean like they can pretend they are Royalty.


37 posted on 01/10/2020 8:57:33 AM PST by Leep (Everyday is Trump Day!)
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No water. No power. Any business of substance will move to the US — along with any military bases or defense industries.

Good luck to California with their withering ag/slave labor industry.


39 posted on 01/10/2020 9:01:21 AM PST by Magnatron
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I just don’t think so. The net federal funding for California is $12 per resident with a total revenue from the federal government at $436.1 billion, the most of any state in the union.

Food prices in the state would skyrocket. Food, which accounts for nearly two-thirds of the state’s agricultural crop value would be effected as shipping would be more difficult and shipments would be considered international shipments, rather those that cross state lines. And the U.S. government would be required to impose tariffs, passing the costs directly to consumers. This also includes dairy as they are the second largest dairy producers in the country behind Wisconsin.

New country taxes in the ex-state will have be ignited to replace the federal lose of business and tourism and to cover tariffs that will be imposed. Millions of jobs will go. And can you imagine needing a passport and a visa to go to Disneyland?

The US will remove their federal jurisdiction so military and federal parks will be removed leaving the costs for the state to replace the loss in income at all locations, 32 in total for the military alone. Along with that is the federal protection and funding for military support and federal prisons.

So it is obvious that financially, when they are already in trouble, they would go tango uniform within the first year and they would become the third world country they wished to become with an open border.

Succeeding would be moronic. They are committing suicide. And they know it. Their threats, that can’t happen anyway, are just as much an empty threat as taking the impeachment up to the senate....it is just BS and dead on arrival. And even those flakes aren’t as stupid as they are greedy.

rwood


40 posted on 01/10/2020 9:08:02 AM PST by Redwood71
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Mexifornia can’t survive without the water from the Colorado river because that’s where SoCal gets 60% of its water. As a state they get very favorable terms for the use of that water but as an independent nation they would have to negotiate an international treaty for it.

And I say NOT A DROP. Let Utah, Arizona and Nevada use it all for irrigation. Turn SoCal into a dust bowl.


43 posted on 01/10/2020 10:03:14 AM PST by Paal Gulli
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