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A Strange Gloom and Doom about Trump Taking Out Soleimani From Both the Right and Left
American Thinker ^ | 01/10/2020 | Michael Thau

Posted on 01/10/2020 7:02:37 AM PST by SeekAndFind

Even if you agree with Tucker Carlson and Ann Coulter that America should get out of the Middle East, it's still hard to understand their immediate and very negative reactions to Trump's fatal air strike on Iranian general Qassem Soleimani.

Some of the doom and gloom may come from paying too much attention to retroactive justifications and not enough to antecedent provocations.  Hearing that Soleimani was killed pre-emptively because he was plotting some unspecified mayhem is bound to elicit an "oh, please" from anyone who remembers Saddam Hussein and his dangerous but ultimately nonexistent weapons of mass destruction.  The resulting disastrous war is just one of many cases demonstrating that American Intelligence Community tries to influence events in much the same way most organizations do: it decides what it wants based on reasons it's unlikely to divulge and then gets the rest of us to agree by pushing information unlikely to be true.

So, it's understandable that, when Army general Mark Milley, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, turned up on television after Soleimani was killed, many assumed that it meant yet another blood-soaked, never-ending, refugee-breeding misadventure.  Even if Milley hadn't said a word, just seeing him standing behind that podium in his uniform might have been enough for anyone over forty with a functioning memory to assume we were in for another round of what Steve Sailor has pointedly termed "invade the world, invite the world."

Unfortunately, Gen. Milley's remarks were so unreassuring that they could have been a parody of a Pentagon spokesman reciting a bogus casus belli:

I'll stand by the intelligence I saw that was compelling.  [Soleimani's planned attack] was imminent, and it was very very clear in scale and scope.  Did it exactly say who, what, when, where?


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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: iran; soleimani; tuckercarlson
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1 posted on 01/10/2020 7:02:37 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Word for the day in the MSM. Crossfire. Can you spell crossfire, children? Bad King Trump shot a missile at Superhero Soleimani and airplane with nice people crashed because he did it. End of story


2 posted on 01/10/2020 7:04:38 AM PST by chuckee
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To: SeekAndFind

Ann Coulter denounced the attack?


3 posted on 01/10/2020 7:06:05 AM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: SeekAndFind

I suspect many US politicians lost their bag man that day.


4 posted on 01/10/2020 7:08:02 AM PST by ArtDodger
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To: Texas Eagle

More like she said we’re in greater danger from the Southern Border sieve - versus Iran - who she said really has never attacked the US itself with any terrorism. Not sure if that’s true in the strictest sense of the word or not.


5 posted on 01/10/2020 7:10:08 AM PST by John Milner (Marching for Peace is like breathing for food.)
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To: Texas Eagle

RE: Ann Coulter denounced the attack?

Yep. Read her TWEET:

https://twitter.com/AnnCoulter/status/1214267892214194176?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1214267892214194176&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fdailycaller.com%2F2020%2F01%2F06%2Fann-coulter-trump-different-iran-war%2F


6 posted on 01/10/2020 7:10:44 AM PST by SeekAndFind (look at Michigan, it will)
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To: SeekAndFind
Killing that satanic bugger would have been a satisfying thing even if he hadn't done anything immediate to provoke it.
7 posted on 01/10/2020 7:11:01 AM PST by Mr Ramsbotham ("God is a spirit, and man His means of walking on the earth.")
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To: Texas Eagle
Ann Coulter denounced the attack?

Ann Coulter would denounce Jesus Christ if she thought it would get her some attention.

8 posted on 01/10/2020 7:11:52 AM PST by Mr Ramsbotham ("God is a spirit, and man His means of walking on the earth.")
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To: SeekAndFind

Just like we are their “Great Satan”, they are our “Great Satan”. Politicians need to be able to “save” us constantly from some great evil . . . and they always have to raise our taxes and restrict our freedoms to do it.

Looks like the great Iranian monster was not as fierce and difficult to confront as they billed it to be. Because of that, it is going to make it more difficult to extract their ill gotten gain from us.

Choke on it, ya thieving b@$+@rd5!!! MAGA!!!!!


9 posted on 01/10/2020 7:12:56 AM PST by RatRipper
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To: Texas Eagle
Ann Coulter denounced the attack?
10 posted on 01/10/2020 7:13:23 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Trump defense chief: "US not seeking war with Iran but prepared to 'finish one'!")
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To: SeekAndFind

I don’t trust the CIA or the FBI in any way. However, some people just need killing, and Soleimani was on that list. Good riddance.


11 posted on 01/10/2020 7:15:48 AM PST by Pollster1 ("Governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed")
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To: ArtDodger
I suspect many US politicians lost their bag man that day.

I agree 100%. See what I said on the current Qanon message thread here on FR....

12 posted on 01/10/2020 7:15:50 AM PST by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's Economic Cure)
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To: SeekAndFind

Soleimani killed and would have continued to kill many people in the Mideast. He killed Americans but his prime target were Sunni Muslims who he viewed as an imminent threat to Shi’ites and Iran. His formative military experience was in the Iran/Iraq war. He forever viewed aggressive Sunni Muslims as his enemy and a threat to Iran. His best work was cooperating with the Russians fighting the Saudi financed Sunni ISIS.

Yet he killed Americans and continued to plot against Americans. His death makes American immediately safer. It also removes the greatest internal threat to the mullah regime in Iran. Many in Iran viewed him as a “dictator in waiting”. He might have been. As a successful, charismatic, fervent general, he was immensely popular with the masses in Iran. If he were elected President , he had the stature and power to change the Iranian constitution and remove the mullahs from secular power. That of course assumes that at his core he was an Iranian patriot, wishing to free his people from medieval misery and not a subservient lackey of the mullahs. We’ll never know. That is the only regret regarding his not entirely unexpected, sudden demise.


13 posted on 01/10/2020 7:16:28 AM PST by allendale (.)
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To: SeekAndFind

What should happen is that, every time an American soldier or regular citizen is killed by a terrorist, the blame should be put on Nancy Pelosi and democrats and their media subsidiaries. Where it not for them, perhaps none of those murders by terrorists would have happened. In fact, blame should go to democrats and the liberal media for Sulemaini having killed so many American soldiers and the thousands of others overseas.

Put blame where it rightfully belongs.


14 posted on 01/10/2020 7:17:07 AM PST by adorno
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To: SeekAndFind
Saddam Hussein and his dangerous but ultimately nonexistent weapons of mass destruction

Oh he had em!~ We knew what he had and how much he had, because WE sold them to him. That's why we "couldn't find them", cause it had our name and fingerprints all over them.

Don't be naive! Everyone uses Mad Moe's murder muppets for their own ends. Iran declared war on US during Carter. Iraq declared war on Iran during Reagan. Reagan gets his revenge on Iran, Sadam gets power, we didn't have to "go to war" with Iran.

The MilIndustry gets paid off with CIA drug money. It was a sordid thing.

Reagan did a lot of good. He did a lot of bad also.

15 posted on 01/10/2020 7:17:41 AM PST by rawcatslyentist (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfuAJcWl6DE Kill a Commie for Mommie)
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To: SeekAndFind

People fight change, that’s what is going on here. For me, I’m pleased we utilized technology, intelligence and advanced systems to knock this guy off, a proven terrorist and enemy combatant participating in an ongoing killing spree, with no collateral damage, win, win, win.


16 posted on 01/10/2020 7:19:13 AM PST by 1Old Pro
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To: Pollster1

RE: I don’t trust the CIA or the FBI in any way.

1. This particular intelligence was SPOT ON. They KNEW where Soleimani was.

2. If we are to distrust the CIA and the FBI then we might as well believe all conspiracy theorists out there. Among them:

A) Soleimani is not really dead. Like Elvis, he’s hiding somewhere ( I can tell you the INCREDIBLE explanations I have been given ).

B) The Iranians shot the Ukrainian Airline because CIA agents were found to be among its passengers

C) It was an American missile that shot the Ukranian Airline down.

The logical point to take if we cannot trust ANYTHING the CIA or FBI tells us is to just dismantle them to save taxpayer money.


17 posted on 01/10/2020 7:21:04 AM PST by SeekAndFind (look at Michigan, it will)
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To: Texas Eagle

Yup.


18 posted on 01/10/2020 7:21:05 AM PST by dhs12345
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To: SeekAndFind

Tucker Carlson’s comments on this really puzzled me.


19 posted on 01/10/2020 7:22:47 AM PST by cuban leaf (The political war playing out in every country now: Globalists vs Nationalists)
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To: dhs12345

Who found the rock she was hiding under? Or, a better question, who looked? Or an even better question, why did anybody look?


20 posted on 01/10/2020 7:23:01 AM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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