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To: DoodleDawg

[Binding or non-binding how do we ignore it? Do we say, “Tough. We’re staying?” How does that not look like it’s an occupation force? If we don’t have the support of the government then what’s the point in being there? ]


An occupation force is one that stays despite laws being passed to expel that force. The passage of actual laws would involve the Iraqi military going into battle to evict our guys there. That is not what is happening here. It’s basically a statement of displeasure. We had plenty of those before Obama withdrew the entire force, then had to jump back in to prevent ISIS from overrunning the country. Even the Iranians aren’t confident they can hold ISIS back in Iraq. That’s why we’re still there.

If ISIS wins in the Middle East, everyone there will join up or die. And they will join up - that’s more or less the way Islam originally spread. 1% die. 99% join the winners. That’s why we need to stick around. And the Shiite Arabs need us, if they’re to remain Shiites. Because they can’t fight worth a damn. That’s why this is a resolution and not a law. Because they don’t want a rerun of ISIS overrunning vast regions of the country again. The Shiites are bastards, but they’re sorta, kinda our bastards, at least in comparison to ISIS.


105 posted on 01/05/2020 7:59:30 AM PST by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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To: Zhang Fei
If ISIS wins in the Middle East, everyone there will join up or die. And they will join up - that’s more or less the way Islam originally spread. 1% die. 99% join the winners.

Then why are we sending our people there to die if it's just postponing the inevitable? Better to leave now. If the Iraqi people don't want ISIS then let them fight them. If they're going to just join them anyway then they're not worth protecting.

220 posted on 01/05/2020 10:21:10 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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