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To: Helicondelta

I loathe Iran, but if this turns into a REAL war, I’m not sure if it’s going to help Trump win re-election.

The Mullahs are sh*t but I wish our CIA would simply EARN a little of their budget and OVERTHROW the mullahs from within, already.

What is the USA going to GAIN by a real war with Iran..?

Answer if your child is in the US military in a combat arms specialty.


4 posted on 01/02/2020 8:46:14 PM PST by gaijin
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To: gaijin

Trump is wise enough not to do what Bush did. Can’t see us going down the permanent occupation, national-building road.


10 posted on 01/02/2020 8:52:21 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: gaijin
As Margaret Thatcher told Bush 41 years ago - this is not the time to go wobbly.

If President Trump does this correctly by giving a nationally televised speech explaining that by attacking an embassy, it is the same as attacking the nation, he will get the support of the citizens. If he asks Congress to declare war, Congress will fold because the American citizens will want action against a nation that has been a thorn in our side since 1978. Sink all their shipping, blockade their ports, freeze their accounts, drone their leaders, and at the end send in troops to mop up.

14 posted on 01/02/2020 8:57:39 PM PST by 7thson (I've got a seat at the big conference table! I'm gonna paint my logo on it!)
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To: gaijin

[[I loathe Iran, but if this turns into a REAL war, I’m not sure if it’s going to help Trump win re-election.]]

This won’t turn into full war- Iran is nuts, but not stupid- They know the stakes- - This act shows the world this president isn’t gonna take ANY crap from them- when Reagan took office, The iranians IMMEDIATELY handed over the hostages knowing full well he wasn’t gonna take crap from them like Carter did


15 posted on 01/02/2020 8:58:22 PM PST by Bob434
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To: gaijin

John Paul Jones?!?! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYRCTHj7k8Y

In the new vocabulary, if you kill our diplomats in Iraq, we will kill your “diplomats” in Iraq.

I’m sad to say that we have a highly likelihood of war in the middle east now than we did this morning, but this morning I laid out my case that if we got trolled into striking back against Iran inside Iran, then we geopolitically escalate. But this move is effectively commensurate with Iran’s decision to bomb and kill a diplomat, inside a foreign country.


16 posted on 01/02/2020 8:58:36 PM PST by z3n
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To: gaijin
I loathe Iran, but if this turns into a REAL war, I’m not sure if it’s going to help Trump win re-election.

I don't think it will turn into a real war. And if it does, it will be short lived. Trump is not Bush. It's not like we're going to invade Iran on foot. Trump won't do tit for tat for very long. He hits back much harder than those that hit him.

And if it did come to a real war, which democrat candidate would you rather see leading our armed forces?

Biden, who showed weakness today and said we shouldn't have done anything provcative in response to the embassy attacks?

Warren,who has talked tough on Iran in the past? But also said "Reagan military spending meant more bombs & fewer textbooks. (Apr 2017)", "Reduce size of standing army to reduce deficit. (Oct 2012)"

Sanders?

Or maybe the gay mayor of South Bend who wants to restore the Iran deal?

32 posted on 01/02/2020 11:56:55 PM PST by DannyTN
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To: gaijin

It was already a real war.

The US responded to an attack on its embassy in Iraq by Iranians by taking out their George S. Patton 13 hours later.

That’s how long wars become short ones. Iran’s economy cannot sustain an actual, real national military effort. They’ve now been pushed to doing either exactly that, or surrender.

Iran actually has Egypt, Saudi Arabia, and Israel allied against them, not including the US. They are the problem in the Sandbox.

Nothing says ‘don’t actually make us lift a finger and do something about Iran’ like killing their Patton 13 hours after an embassy attack.

These are the things that shorten wars we are already in. The point to war is getting the other country to capitulate. This is how that is accomplished.


34 posted on 01/03/2020 3:58:38 AM PST by RinaseaofDs
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To: gaijin

Iran doesn’t want to wage war against Trump... Our greatest risk of war will be with some future democrat President who is afraid of war but unwilling to pay Iran the billions they’ll want.


43 posted on 01/03/2020 7:33:06 AM PST by GOPJ (Soleimani mastermind attacks on the Embassy in Baghdad... he was dead within 24 hours.)
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