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To: RandallFlagg
I'm not going to watch again, but the way I remember it was that the shooter had the gun pointed at the guy he asked the question to, and then only turned toward the first defender while they attempted to draw. You are probably right though, a charge would probably have been ineffective.

I have been influenced though with some training videos some guy posted here on the forums some time back about how fast a perp can make up the ground between you and him before you could get a shot off. It is scary and why they teach officers to shoot to kill, no warning shot. And shoot many times.

119 posted on 12/29/2019 2:43:36 PM PST by Religion and Politics (It is time for more than one denomination of "Political Correctness".)
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To: Religion and Politics

“they teach officers to shoot to kill”

No. LEOs are told and trained to shoot to STOP. Never say shot to kill. Say shot to stop him from being a threat. It he is killed as a result of shooting to stop.... that happens.


121 posted on 12/29/2019 2:47:48 PM PST by DOC44
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To: Religion and Politics
how fast a perp can make up the ground between you and him before you could get a shot off.

It's called, "The Tueller Drill," or the 21-foot rule.
The average healthy adult male can cover 21 feet in less than three seconds -how long a defender has to react.
123 posted on 12/29/2019 2:51:09 PM PST by RandallFlagg (Fact: Gun control laws kill innocents.)
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To: Religion and Politics

“I’m not going to watch again, but the way I remember it was that the shooter had the gun pointed at the guy he asked the question to, and then only turned toward the first defender while they attempted to draw.”

I did watch it again:

the scumbag is moving back and forth in the corner for 5 seconds;

then he comes back to the standing man (usher?) he asks a question

the standing usher points towards the first seated defender who then gestures in the direction of the scumbag

the scumbag brings up his long gun before the seated defender rises and starts his draw

scumbag shoots the now standing defender who was beginning his draw, and then the scumbag shoots the usher.

Other defender (who eventually kills the scumbag) only starts moving as the first defender is getting shot.

Seems to me PROFILING SHOULD BE MANDATORY.

Better to apologize to some oddly dressed non-threat than to let some SCUMBAG DRESSED IN A LONG BLACK COAT get the drop on everyone.


147 posted on 12/29/2019 5:47:03 PM PST by BTerclinger (MAGA)
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